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Zamboozle's Seafood Chow Mein (Healer OT)
It probably has to do with that "it's just a game" mentality / excuse which irritates me to no end. "It's just a game so it doesn't matter if I'm late." "It's just a game so it doesn't matter if I'm rude to those people." I totally get that. In the beginning of the Tier, we had no-shows or people showing up ridiculously late (1.5+ hours late). "Oh, it's just a game, I needed to take a nap" is the most bull!@#$ excuse ever. It's a game, true, but you also have 9/24 other people depending on you to show up and if you don't, you're beyond rude to me. It's flat-out disrespectful. Thankfully, our raid is really coming together and we're doing okay now. Our progression is pretty slow, but hey, it's the best place I've been so far and I can't really see myself anywhere else. |
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Edited by Meditation on 12/17/12 9:23 AM (PST)
Yeah, those are the choices the RL makes >.< We're not going to be working on H MSV unless we go back and do it late in T14; we need to concentrate on getting normal-mode HoF down so we can get into Terrace. Our RL is just now coming to the decision to put most of our time into HoF, and just head over to normal-mode MSV to let people vent their progression frustrations on facerolling some bosses in there. We have a few people who get overwhelmed and discouraged if they only get 2 bosses down in a week (Viz, Blade Lord... then wipe 15 times to Garalon) so he's been continuing to have us spend 1 full night in MSV. Pretty sure that's changing this week; tomorrow night we'll head to HoF first, and we're expecting that Garalon kill (hopefully *early* but... with the way we derp... who knows).
Nothing makes me want to ditch my group (who I love and in all truth won't leave) more than this. We don't tend to have problems with lateness, but people wander off on bios randomly between pulls and even, to me, people who don't do the *very* minimal research/work we ask of them causing so many extra wipes which weren't needed... Or when RL calls for a quick wipe so the rogue or hunter or mage can mass rez us instead of running all the way back, and people don't wipe... in fact, the Disc keeps *healing*... That's highly direspectful of the other 9 people's time, imo. |
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Oh god help us
Do you read class forums at all? You've made Russians start quitting, that's when you know you've broken something. Inc more pvp threads now that GC has said again that these are the forums he reads. >.> |
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@Quess - I wouldn't call your progression slow, far from it. You're far ahead of my guild at least, and so I am a little jealous. xD
@ Meditation - Garalon is such a jerk. I hope you guys can get it down soon, because honestly windlord and ambershaper are easier (imo) Disrespect is a huge problem in gaming communities and it's very unfortunate. I wish people would take care more and think on how their actions affect the people around them. |
Yeah, I saw that tweet a while ago and thought the same thing. There do seem to be more dumdum PvP threads coming about here, too. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. ;0 He shouldn't announce what forums he reads, may as well wave a big sign around that says "Post your whining here"
Eh, I'm sure your group could knock out Garajal and Elegon, extremely simple fights, especially Elegon. I know what you mean though, I see people around here only 1-2 bosses ahead and I feel a tickle of envy.
It's the age of the troll. Most people spending a lot of their time on the internet have an undeserved sense of self-importance, because they have anonymity. It'll always be like that, they can shrug it off their shoulders and feel "Well, none of those people are even real to me, who cares how I treat them?" |
<hears singing in her head> This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius/Age of Aquariuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus.... /Aquarius! Aquariuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus. |
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<hears singing in her head> Showing your age, my dear! Though, I guess I just did as well. ;) Onto the topic of respect and what not. This is something that hits quite close to home at the moment as I am having some.... issues with my raid group. I love them all dearly, as people... as raiders there are a few I would like to beat with a stick... repeatedly. It's not so much a progression (or lack thereof) issue as in itself that doesn't mean overly much to me. My problem is people not trying to do their best. If we are trying and it is just not coming together yet for some reason.. I am ok with that, but every time we hit an enrage timer I can't help but think "If xxx had actually done his dailies and unlocked valor gear he could have had yyy piece and done zzz more dps and maybe we would have beat the timer." Is it logical? Maybe... maybe not, but either way that is how I feel. It's gotten frustrating enough that a week ago I went and levelled up my alt priest I had been raiding with on a different server in Cata. Their progression is actually even less than what my guild has atm due to starting later and lack of adequate healers *cough* but they all at least try their best so I am hoping I can switch my mentality to favor that group for raiding for real and just treat my group as a means to pass time before I go mental on people. |
<hears singing in her head> (((hugs)))
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I wonder if I could hack it in 25 man raiding now. Would I just feel overwhelmed?
I haven't even considered the option of trying progression 25 mans since I quit them mid wrath, it seems weird to me now. Like intimidating. So many people. So many voices. *curls up in a corner.* |
we need to concentrate on getting normal-mode HoF down so we can get into Terrace. Our RL is just now coming to the decision to put most of our time into HoF, and just head over to normal-mode MSV to let people vent their progression frustrations on facerolling some bosses in there. That is where we are at too, although I am frustrated at the current insistence in *always* wanting to clear MSV. Many of us need either a trinket or the wand from Elegon, but honestly, our group raids only 2 days per week. I consider it to be a total waste of time at this point. We are never going to see anything but raid finder tier this way, not to mention sha touched weapons. Sigh. |
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Anyone need to do LFR? Tiriel and I are going to chain run some.
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Edited by Kerias on 12/17/12 12:39 PM (PST)
I wonder if I could hack it in 25 man raiding now. Would I just feel overwhelmed? I understand feeling overwhelmed. When I joined ESheep, I went from a 10 man that never saw a Cata heroic to trying Heroic Hagara. It was intimidating because I never saw so much damage, but I adjusted in a few nights. e: I'm glad to start raiding again, this week. I feel like taking 75% of the nights off the last few weeks has made me slower. |
I wonder if I could hack it in 25 man raiding now. Would I just feel overwhelmed? Fluffy, 25s are *very* fun as a shaman. |
It's so much fun. If i could not raid 25's i would uninstall in a heartbeat. Much more epic imo. |
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Edited by Harpoa on 12/17/12 12:57 PM (PST)
I dunno about that. I use all of my spells. |
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I never found 25 man boring as a Shaman. I just found my spells to sometimes be too slow, and spread made me want to choke puppies. |
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Edited by Fluffy on 12/17/12 1:09 PM (PST)
I feel like in 25 mans I'd get to use more spells more often. Maybe a little less healing wave, and a little more chain heal and a lot more healing rain.
I don't know. I shouldn't even be thinking about it because, my guild is nice enough. When people show up, we do get things done. It's just that people don't always show up. >.< They are nice enough though. And I'm their only bloodlust. :3 The raid hours are kind of brutal though. 4 hours a night 3 times a week. Id much rather 3 hours a night. And much much much rather 2 nights a week. :3 Even 2 nights for 4 hours would be nicer. Heh. |
