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01/05/2013 02:55 PMPosted by Shâd

This whole post screams, I'm a shadow priest and I'm complaining.

I'm positive that you had no idea what to reply because it blown your mind.

I didn't use cap or anything in my post and gave out very detailed counter part of BG vs Shadow, you couldn't react in manner and start to show your troll face again, pathetic. No wonder others said you're bad.

Lot of scrub alliance in here hating on Oque. Option 1: Que with 10 people who have the same goal, winning. These people may be just full contenders, but they want to win and are willing to work toward that goal. Option 2: (Insert Lil John) EVER-A BODAY! BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS, BOTS BOTS BOTS, BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS!
You can read articles and blue posts where they address peoples complaints about premades, and great addons like oQue, but not to many posts about (lil John) BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS!
Also, alliance can use the addon, it's on solidice.com OR www.curse.com,

01/05/2013 03:06 PMPosted by Sharlese

Lot of scrub alliance in here hating on Oque

dont like my addon, you are a scrub. oq users are all class always.

for years you could que as a full raid into bgs

just because they changed the que mechanics you act like this is something crazy or new

full premades are a good thing

any pvp is good pvp

if you break it down, what does a full oQueue premade bring to the table that is unfair?
I’ll try to break it down as clearly as I can:

Any addon that enables a full, organized Battleground group to queue against a randomly assembled group is creating a scenario where that coordinated group has a huge advantage. That is not in the spirit of the experience we want to provide in the normal Battleground queue. Playing with friends is fun and important, but it shouldn't come at the expense of the spirit of the game nor the fun of others.

The normal Battleground queue is for players to jump in and play against other players in a similar situation. We realize that it's not a perfect system, and we're still looking at ways to improve normal Battleground queues further. Regardless, it's not meant for organized groups to "pug stomp" and get quick Honor. We have built in outlets for players that want to organize--if a competitive, social experience was really the goal, then there are clear ways to achieve that.

The ultimate effect that this kind of queuing has had is to drive players away from PvP. Perhaps it's been a long time since you've been in a random group, but a lot of players will see that they're up against a premade and simply quit. At best, they suffer through it. To an extent premade groups count on this. Heck, one of the popular addons announces opposing players that appear to have rage quit.

Addons aren’t really a viable solution for botting issues, but we do take those issues seriously and we'll continue our work on improvements to the Battleground system, including better ways to deal with botting and other exploitative gameplay.

Now let us be honest, due to these addons and people like Rathamus and Tiny, regular Battleground PVP had picked up and was growing by leaps and bounds. That is what alerted you. More and more people were turning to the "coordinated" PVP and fewer and fewer "random groups" were being formed. The BG's were no longer sitting idle.
False. That is neither what 'alerted' us, nor were Battlegrounds ever even close to sitting idle.

What is true that there's been an increase in pre-made groups disrupting the PvP experience for other players, though. Pre-mades in the normal queue, however they are formed, are not something that we've ever been particularly fond of. It had become more of an issue of late, so we addressed it accordingly.

FROM GC's mouth I saved the entire Q/A so I don't have to go looking for it again

01/05/2013 02:53 PMPosted by Keyasha

i cant believe u play an massive MULTIPLAYER online game and cry about people grouping up and focusing on a goal.

They cower in fear because they want to be bg heroes and win it for purely random groups. It upsets them when a premade beats them. I used to love rolling these in BC before Blizz allowed the players with their panties in a wad to win out. Oh well, I am mostly pvping while leveling up lately. This one is mainly the gear/enchant person.

01/05/2013 04:17 PMPosted by Toskosa

Lot of scrub alliance in here hating on Oque

dont like my addon, you are a scrub. oq users are all class always.

And the non-addon users are always classy? LOL

Typical stupid, canned reply to someone else's typical reply.

You can keep up the circle jerk if you like.

for years you could que as a full raid into bgs

just because they changed the que mechanics you act like this is something crazy or new

full premades are a good thing

any pvp is good pvp

+10086
Absolutely 100% bloody hell this!

for years you could que as a full raid into bgs

just because they changed the que mechanics you act like this is something crazy or new

full premades are a good thing

any pvp is good pvp

You know Blizzard changed it to 5 person max in Cata so premades wouldn't obliterate randoms, right? Breaking addon queueing was just another step to ensure it stays that way.

I don't see how full premades going against random teams is "a good thing". It's like a high school football team going against a gym class.

You know Blizzard changed it to 5 person max in Cata so premades wouldn't obliterate randoms, right? Breaking addon queueing was just another step to ensure it stays that way.

I don't see how full premades going against random teams is "a good thing". It's like a high school football team going against a gym class.

Most people don't even bother checking maps during battles, no nothing about how to protect FC/peel healers, zero awareness of what's goin on on defensive/offensive, crappy gear and everything..

They.deserve.nothing.

Full premades usually consist with people who care about teamworks, care about objectives, they have every right to come out and pwn those mindless pigs with no pity. I wish blizzard didn't change the queue system so I got to see mindless pigs got pwned every day and night.

01/05/2013 04:51 PMPosted by Xista

You know Blizzard changed it to 5 person max in Cata so premades wouldn't obliterate randoms, right?

Wrong. Blizzard changed it as a way to try entice (read: force) people into playing RBGs.

And the non-addon users are always classy? LOL

Typical stupid, canned reply to someone else's typical reply.

You can keep up the circle jerk if you like.

most of the people who use oq and post on the forums are jerks about it, i use oq but i dont go aruond calling others scrubs or bads for not using it.

You know Blizzard changed it to 5 person max in Cata so premades wouldn't obliterate randoms, right? Breaking addon queueing was just another step to ensure it stays that way.

I don't see how full premades going against random teams is "a good thing". It's like a high school football team going against a gym class.

Most people don't even bother checking maps during battles, no nothing about how to protect FC/peel healers, zero awareness of what's goin on on defensive/offensive, crappy gear and everything..

They.deserve.nothing.

Full premades usually consist with people who care about teamworks, care about objectives, they have every right to come out and pwn those mindless pigs with no pity. I wish blizzard didn't change the queue system so I got to see mindless pigs got pwned every day and night.

Any addon that enables a full, organized Battleground group to queue against a randomly assembled group is creating a scenario where that coordinated group has a huge advantage. That is not in the spirit of the experience we want to provide in the normal Battleground queue. Playing with friends is fun and important, but it shouldn't come at the expense of the spirit of the game nor the fun of others.

The normal Battleground queue is for players to jump in and play against other players in a similar situation. We realize that it's not a perfect system, and we're still looking at ways to improve normal Battleground queues further. Regardless, it's not meant for organized groups to "pug stomp" and get quick Honor. We have built in outlets for players that want to organize--if a competitive, social experience was really the goal, then there are clear ways to achieve that.

The ultimate effect that this kind of queuing has had is to drive players away from PvP. Perhaps it's been a long time since you've been in a random group, but a lot of players will see that they're up against a premade and simply quit. At best, they suffer through it. To an extent premade groups count on this. Heck, one of the popular addons announces opposing players that appear to have rage quit.

Essentially in GC's own words full premades consist of people who want to pub stomp mercilessly; and this in fact more detrimental to pvp then botting in terms of people getting their gear then stopping because it is not fun.

Sorry, I find GC to be lacking in decent thought on PvP. Bots are worse than facing one premade. I can see mulitiple bots and only see one premade. If one premade ruins someone's pvp experience I doubt they were cut out for pvp to begin.

01/05/2013 06:11 PMPosted by Scintillara

pub stomp

i'm not sure that means what you think it does

01/05/2013 06:11 PMPosted by Scintillara

Essentially in GC's own words full premades consist of people who want to pub stomp mercilessly; and this in fact more detrimental to pvp then botting in terms of people getting their gear then stopping because it is not fun.

so GC can read the thoughts of players now? yet is 100% unable to keep bots out of bgs??

LOL

quit whining. queue up solo or use oqueue and actually play with other people. entirely up to you. but please, stop trying to push your play style on those that clearly have no interest in it. it's just... unseemly and rude

btw, have you noticed the distinct lack of 'omg bots!' threads on the bg forums? why do you think that is? i'll give you a hint... GC had nothing to do with it.

Wanna make pvp balanced? Everyone that is in a BG has to pvp while receiving a handie!

01/05/2013 04:17 PMPosted by Toskosa

Lot of scrub alliance in here hating on Oque

dont like my addon, you are a scrub. oq users are all class always.

SCRUB ALLIANCE! Get it, cause we are HORDE. We can be mean to the enemy. Has nothing to do with people who use the addon.

List of things you WONT see in oQue Premades
- Bloodlust/ heroism activated at the gate, before it goes down
- Fighting an the roads alone
- AFK people at the start zone
- BOTS
- Crazy over geared people who don't belong in a BG
- "Hey guys, lets zerg their boss"
- Team quit when the enemy caps a flag
Things you WILL see in an OQ premade
- Players in FULL contenders
- Players who joined to win
- Use of battle ground mechanics such as defending, and planned attacks.
- Achievement runs, IN FULL CONTENDERS!
- Playing out a game, even if you lose
- HEALERS!!!
- Leadership / target calling
- Healers...
- Peels
Remember, it's free, it's easy to use. Even if you are alliance you can get it, join wow.publicvent.org port 4135 and find a leader and ask them how to use it if you need assistance. We want you to use it too. It's not for elitists, it's for the average grunt, in average gear. It's for your alt, it's for cross server RBG's it's for dungeons runs it's for raids. It's everything blizzard isnt giving you wrapped in a little data package. Solidice.com or www.curse.com!

Essentially in GC's own words full premades consist of people who want to pub stomp mercilessly; and this in fact more detrimental to pvp then botting in terms of people getting their gear then stopping because it is not fun.

Who doesn't want to stormrolling mercilessly? Do you care how your enemy feel when you spam your harmful spells on them? You're allow to pvp against enemies that is equal to or even weaker than you. You're also allow to pvp against enemies that are controlled by a program...

But you're not allow to pvp against a group of organized enemy. Because they're stronger than you, so we deprive your right to challenge them. We give you this protection, we're taking "good care" of you.

At the end of the day, you're still a road fighter and be as terrible as you could. You have been protected in this greenhouse all the way til you step into arena/RBG found out how incompetent you are.

We're sorry but it's not our fault.

My premade beat the living crap out of a Mannoroth premade last night, so shove the "pug stomping crap" where the sun doesn't shine you bitter, solo queueing bastards.