Countdown queues are the problem

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I have this addon I'm yet to use it for BG's it just makes looking for RBG"S so much easier.i think Blizzard should implement this addon in to game.
90 Undead Mage
1935
You seem a very bitter person to anyone that thinks differently than you.

Why are you so angry at these people?
Differently as in not condoning botting and players ignoring objectives makes me bitter? That is absolute nonsense. I am not angry at them... I used to be rather irritated when they were in my group but not now. If I happen to solo queue & it's clear that most if not all of my group are bots and/or players ignoring objectives I just leave. They aren't worth my time.
Edited by Kiaransali on 1/16/2013 4:32 PM PST
90 Orc Warrior
10085
zomg did a 5 man BG earlier today and we roflstomped the alliance every time in SSM. Even got the cart courier achieve =O

There really is NO NEED for 5 people.

I think 50% of the BG should be able to queue together, though.
Edited by Zeroizer on 1/16/2013 4:37 PM PST
90 Undead Warrior
12140
They are the sole domain provided by Blizzard that offer rewards for groups larger than 5 though. Wargames are what you seek... except without reward. That's basically the crux of the whole discussion in a nutshell.

Reward. People are bending the reality of whats intended to get it... or they're just stompin pugs.


by taking this stance then blizzard has failed by keeping
objectives in normal battlegrounds. if strategy is not meant
to be had in the normal bg then remove the objectives.
go in with your four friends and deathmatch it up. it would
still involve 'stomping pugs' but with no actual win objectives.

Ya, me neither. But i do care about integrity and how it makes me feel about myself. And the concept itself.
edit- not to mention the concept of fair play. I like it - even when i am not the party in question affected.


integrity, sure. fair play. yeah, i'm onboard with that too.
however, to equate fair play to a mindless deathmatch
instead of the open capability to use teamwork, strategy,
communication, etc, which is what the anti-premade stance
is based upon, in these objective base battlegrounds is not
acceptable and should not be defended as it lacks integrity.

01/16/2013 03:33 PMPosted by Warglaive
I think he wants you to ask for


what he's really saying is, 'i'm brushing you off because we
have our own plans and you're not included."

Cheers.
Pleb.


But have you been able to ENTER them with more than 4 others?

Agruing that you "cant queue that way" while still arriving at the same destination is weak and beneath you.
It is unintended.


perhaps you didn't read the rest of the post, and
if you did, didn't fully understand it. that's okay.

there is nothing wrong with premades in normals.

to bandwagon a bad patch doesn't make it right.

countdowns are not a cheat.

rollback the errors of patch 5.1. /signed

Cheers.
Pleb.

that's part of the problem with moral high grounding. doesn't
matter how wrong or bad a law, rule, patch, etc. is you'll wrap
yourself in it at the expense of that which is right or good.
patch 5.1 was a mistake.


Countdowns are a cheat
You are a scrub
As are most who use OQ for full premades
Can't be bothered to think of a 4th line

Seriously why do you type in quatrains are you 12 or something its very obvious you do full premades constantly just by comparing your av win % to the other bgs. Blizzard actually broke the full que a while before 5.1; 5.1 just broke the workaround OQ was using to make vent countdowns unnecessary.

Oh and Kira when you afk out because things aren't going your way you lose the right to complain rofl.
Edited by Scintillara on 1/16/2013 4:47 PM PST
90 Undead Mage
1935
zomg did a 5 man BG earlier today and we roflstomped the alliance every time in SSM. Even got the cart courier achieve =O

There really is NO NEED for 5 people.

I think 50% of the BG should be able to queue together, though.
I have done some 5 man premades in SSM & lost a few times because the other 5 players were more worthless than a comb for a bald guy. We could escort one cart easily but if we tried to escort two we would get zerged and got zero help from the 5 !@#$bags fighting in the middle. It was pretty much a 5 v 10 match.
90 Night Elf Rogue
9730
01/16/2013 04:46 PMPosted by Scintillara
Oh and Kira


Kia, not Kira. Jesus Christ...

Fae change that name, or you're going have a pissed off rogue on your a** if I ever queue against you.
Edited by Kirama on 1/16/2013 5:20 PM PST
90 Orc Warrior
10085
01/16/2013 05:19 PMPosted by Kirama
Oh and Kira


Kia, not Kira. Jesus Christ...

Fae change that name, or you're going have a pissed off rogue on your a** if I ever queue against you.


He's a mage...good luck :<
61 Gnome Rogue
10735
I have done some 5 man premades in SSM & lost a few times because the other 5 players were more worthless than a comb for a bald guy. We could escort one cart easily but if we tried to escort two we would get zerged and got zero help from the 5 !@#$bags fighting in the middle. It was pretty much a 5 v 10 match.


This is the beauty of normal battlegrounds. Out of 10 chances of getting good random players, they rolled a 10. Out of 5 chances of getting good random players, you rolled a 0. It's rare that this happens, but it is possible.

The point is that queueing with a premade shouldn't be an automatic win. That's not fun for you or your opponents. Yes, you collect the rewards fast, but it's not good for the overall game. With a 5 man premade you noticably increase your chance of winning, but it's not always a quick slam.
90 Night Elf Rogue
9730
He's a mage...good luck :<


DON'T CARE.
90 Orc Warrior
10085
He's a mage...good luck :<


DON'T CARE.


U dance, I help.
90 Night Elf Rogue
9730
01/16/2013 05:36 PMPosted by Zeroizer
U dance, I help.


Wut is this...
90 Undead Warrior
12140
Countdowns are a cheat
You are a scrub
As are most who use OQ for full premades
Can't be bothered to think of a 4th line

Seriously why do you type in quatrains are you 12 or something its very obvious you do full premades constantly just by comparing your av win % to the other bgs. Blizzard actually broke the full que a while before 5.1; 5.1 just broke the workaround OQ was using to make vent countdowns unnecessary.


you a funny girl.

really, these aren't true quatrains. one of the reasons i put
it up here like this is because it makes for easier reading.
you can take in a line at a glance and move to the next
without losing your place. i also like the way it appears.
it's as much for the readers as it is for me. so there it is.
just easy to read blocking of words. nothing special.

my AV win percentage was above 60% before i started
running with rath strat group a couple months before
MoP went live. i never slouched in any of them and often
pug led them to a win, or a loss. you just never know.

what the premade does do is greatly improve your bg
experience. nobody should be forced into rated bg's to
have an improved bg experience. the larger the premade,
the better the experience. wins are a byproduct.

you rail on about full premades. even though i see no
problem in the full premade i've not been in one in a
long time. the premade, whether a full or not, does not
assure you a win. the odds that it improves the chance of a
win are determined by how many derps you have on your
team and how many derps the enemy team has. yes, i've
been in premades that was full of derps. simple stuff really.

premades are not the problem. never have been.

Cheers.
Pleb, the idiot scrub AV groupie.
Edited by Theplebian on 1/16/2013 6:27 PM PST
90 Undead Mage
1935
This is the beauty of normal battlegrounds. Out of 10 chances of getting good random players, they rolled a 10. Out of 5 chances of getting good random players, you rolled a 0. It's rare that this happens, but it is possible.

The point is that queueing with a premade shouldn't be an automatic win. That's not fun for you or your opponents. Yes, you collect the rewards fast, but it's not good for the overall game. With a 5 man premade you noticably increase your chance of winning, but it's not always a quick slam.
Well I'm pretty sure the opposing teams were full premades (well 9/10 since almost nobody does 10/10 because it's really hard to get all of them in the BG).

01/16/2013 05:19 PMPosted by Kirama
Fae change that name, or you're going have a pissed off rogue on your a** if I ever queue against you.
lol I'm not afraid of rogues sorry so that's an empty threat.
90 Undead Mage
1935
Countdowns are a cheat
You are a scrub
As are most who use OQ for full premades
Can't be bothered to think of a 4th line

Seriously why do you type in quatrains are you 12 or something its very obvious you do full premades constantly just by comparing your av win % to the other bgs. Blizzard actually broke the full que a while before 5.1; 5.1 just broke the workaround OQ was using to make vent countdowns unnecessary.
You have to admit Rainbowdash finally said something interesting after 2953 posts. I lol'ed.

01/16/2013 06:19 PMPosted by Tooskosa
ill make you fear rogues. garrot when you are already being attacked by 6 people. what now?
Pugs can't focus targets so unless you have a premade again not worried.
Edited by Kiaransali on 1/16/2013 6:21 PM PST
90 Undead Mage
1935
01/16/2013 06:23 PMPosted by Tooskosa
exactly my point. instead of getting the enemy fc they will be to busy zerging the first player they see. and i will be there to garrote like i was born too.
If I had $1 for every time I saw 7 different DPS on 7 different targets (none of which is the EFC or a healer) I could buy Blizzard.
90 Night Elf Rogue
9730
01/16/2013 06:18 PMPosted by Kiaransali
lol I'm not afraid of rogues sorry so that's an empty threat.


I'll remember that...
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