Priest Healers

84 Blood Elf Priest
11305
Hey guys,

I was looking for some feedback from adept Priest Healers that would mainly answer the general effectiveness of priests throughout the bosses of MoP, and the unique mechanics that the bosses may have shown, assuming that one can switch between holy and discipline talents.

Note that I do have some raiding experience, as I've been playing the game since '07, and have been raiding (completing content on heroic as well) on my Restoration druid since the start of Trial of the Crusader, up until a month ago, or so. So, there is a good possibility that I will be able to understand most jargon.

I have been reading a few forums basically saying that priests do currently require dev-attention, and according to the various of forums I have read, it seems as if the main issue was that priests were not at a competitive level in World of Logs - therefore, priests need improvement. I am not knowledgeable of how these people exactly interpret their competitiveness among other healers, however, I do know that the many of the "high ranking #'s" on there are skewed, as many don't parse the duration of the entire combat, and only show a portion of it, where they spiked immensely high in healing.

At the same time, I do realize the advantages of the other healers (ex: Paladins, Monks), as I did raid 10 man for some time in Mist of Pandaria, with a few heroic bosses down. However, I think (just an opinion!) the reason classes such as Paladins are so powerful at the moment, is because Blizzard had designed most of the encounters that work in favor to only certain classes. For example, Feng the Accursed, both heroic and normal. I recall our paladin already having his Illuminated Healing on everyone, so that's damage mitigated, and as soon as damage AoE hits from his Arcane Velocity ability, he is able to anticipate when it'll hit, so he can pre-cast at the right time, and immediately afterwards, cast Light of Dawn at max holy power; which seems to top off the health bars very quickly. Now as a druid, I was pre-hotting, which proved ineffective, since the HoTs could barely land more than 1 tick, before they were all at full health due the abilities of our paladin. Anyways, you get the idea; it's difficult to land heals on health bars as a druid when there is a skilled paladin.

On the other hand, bosses such as Elegon and Garalon - generally continuous damage fights, are scenarios where I outshine even a skillful paladin, as I can proactively cast my HoTs and there will always be damage to be healed at almost any given time. (<--- An example of a mechanic in favor of my druid healing abilities).

As a summary of what I'm really asking, is that, although priests don't score high on World of Logs, does that necessarily mean they are "ineffective?" At the moment, their ineffectiveness is something that I won't believe YET, as they do have 2 healing specs that they're able to switch between, depending on the boss, and come with important cool downs that can be utilized greatly. Also, is it possible that mechanics of a boss can be in favor of priest healing mechanics, making them more competitive? If so, what would the mechanics have to look like in order for it to work with theirs?

Thanks <3
Edited by Sadriisa on 1/11/2013 2:29 AM PST
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90 Blood Elf Priest
6590
Priests of both specs are very well represented at the moment, actually. Great aoe, single target, burst and raid cds. (both specs)

We're very strong, and very, very powerful in progression raiding. I don't know where you're getting the fact that we're underpowered. We were at the start of the expansion but we were overbuffed (at least disc was.)

The only issues we currently have are mechanical. clunky aoe healing that is either overpowered or incredibly weak depending on the fight.
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90 Human Priest
16625
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6794980143
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81 Tauren Druid
1770
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-7874zqg1bib8zrny/sum/healingDone/?s=749&e=1025#Psudo

Ignore Twistedmind as he clearly has 0 understanding of mathematitics at its most purest form


Ignore Psudo as he clearly has 0 understanding of spellelling and grammammer at its most purest form
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90 Undead Priest
16470
01/11/2013 02:17 AMPosted by Sadriisa
As a summary of what I'm really asking, is that, although priests don't score high on World of Logs


You must be confuzzled. Priests represent the single highest output of any healing class on almost every fight right now. And Disc does that through 1 spell -- Prayer of Healing (occasionally modified by Spirit Shell).

The only exclusion I know of where Disc is not the best output healer is on Tsulong.

Proof:
25H: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25H/all/14/30/p90/#0000000000000000000000000000111111

10H: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/10H/all/14/30/p90/#0000000000000000000000000000111111

25N: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25N/all/14/30/p90/#0000000000000000000000000000111111

10N: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/10N/all/14/30/p90/#0000000000000000000000000000111111
Edited by Poena on 1/11/2013 1:53 PM PST
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90 Goblin Priest
15415
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-7874zqg1bib8zrny/sum/healingDone/?s=749&e=1025#Psudo

Ignore Twistedmind as he clearly has 0 understanding of mathematitics at its most purest form

Ignore Psudo as he clearly has 0 understanding of spellelling and grammammer at its most purest form


haha nice, and yes you are correct my english and grammer skills are definately lacking, atleast your link shows what i typed b4 i deleted it out of respect for others and not wishing to be a hinderance.
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90 Human Priest
8460
01/11/2013 01:51 PMPosted by Poena
As a summary of what I'm really asking, is that, although priests don't score high on World of Logs


You must be confuzzled. Priests represent the single highest output of any healing class on almost every fight right now. And Disc does that through 1 spell -- Prayer of Healing (occasionally modified by Spirit Shell).

The only exclusion I know of where Disc is not the best output healer is on Tsulong.

Proof:
25H: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25H/all/14/30/p90/#0000000000000000000000000000111111

10H: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/10H/all/14/30/p90/#0000000000000000000000000000111111

25N: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25N/all/14/30/p90/#0000000000000000000000000000111111

10N: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/10N/all/14/30/p90/#0000000000000000000000000000111111


Based on the fact he is specced Holy and low level he may not know about Disc in pve. I still find pvper that are like disc in raids??

I hear a lot of people saying Holy is strong, it's not as strong as Disc and the logs speak for them self every other healing class has many representation in the top100 for most fights on worldoflogs.com. Find me a holy priest, let me help you, the top one in the world is around 150 and not one holy priest makes the top 100. That speaks pretty loud.
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90 Undead Priest
16470
01/12/2013 12:10 AMPosted by Nighttstorm
not one holy priest makes the top 100. That speaks pretty loud.


But that's not what he is talking about. He is talking about the class itself. Disc is boring and overpowered, Holy is interesting and average performance..
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84 Blood Elf Priest
11305
Thanks for the very helpful answers guys. :) I now have the confidence to continue my leveling to 90, and not have to worry about setting myself up for failure (When it comes down to "which healer class would be better to take, when the two have equal skill).
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90 Blood Elf Priest
6590
01/12/2013 12:10 AMPosted by Nighttstorm
I hear a lot of people saying Holy is strong, it's not as strong as Disc and the logs speak for them self every other healing class has many representation in the top100 for most fights on worldoflogs.com. Find me a holy priest, let me help you, the top one in the world is around 150 and not one holy priest makes the top 100. That speaks pretty loud.


Besides the fact that top 100 logs are often from groups that take unnecessary damage and/or cut down healers and/or purposefully stack their healer's healing in order to obtain them a rank?

Oh, not to mention holy priests that used to be doing quite well for themselves either being forced to go disc because of spirit shell being so powerful and those that are sat because disc is more powerful on most fights and brings more utility? It's not a case of holy being bad. Far from it. It's a case of there being 2 healing classes with 1 clearly superior to the other.

But, please, tell me how top 100 is the be-all-end-all of WoW.
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