Topic Kylie's Signature Shop
Edited by Kylíe on 1/20/13 3:02 PM (PST)
Please do forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong section =(
Or perhaps this section of the forum doesn't get visited often? hehe
I am somewhat proud to announce my "signature shop," where you can request a signature that you might possibly be happy with...
OH MY GOD
I just realized that wow forums don't use sigs, however I'm sure some of you have guild websites or what not, or maybe you just want one! They're fun to make!
So I guess here's the format! (I could just look at your character, but perhaps you want something else, so just to be sure...):
Render Style (like a cartoon, real person, etc.):
Of course, you don't have to fill it all out =)
So I started making signatures many months ago when I was playing my ex-MMORPG.
I used to charge people for signatures, however I became slightly OP and didn't really have trouble supporting my expenses, but! in wow, I am a super newbie =P
Anyways, I won't make a set price, but donations are appreciated as I am a hobo.
Please be patient, I am extremely slow at making my sigs =(
Here are some examples, newest to oldest (you'll notice "Zombilicious" a lot...that was my old char name and I would tag most of my signatures with it for credit):
Edited by Krónic on 1/19/13 9:50 PM (PST)
Name: Krónic (Alt 162 for the ó)
Guild: Electric Sheep
Theme: Druid or Feral (preferred)
Render Style (like a cartoon, real person, etc.): No Preference
Additional Info: Could you make the size 400 x 100? Also, I'm from a different server and this is my first ime requesting something like this so I'm not sure how payment would be done. And thank you. =)
Edited by Avalae on 1/21/13 9:30 PM (PST)
Guild: Provisional Sin
Theme: Something that matches the color scheme of my outfit that I have on, brown, purple, and accents of silver. I like the color combination.
Render Style (like a cartoon, real person, etc.): Doesn't really matter to me, do whatever you think will go with the color best :)
Name: Krónic (Alt 162 for the ó)
I don't know if this turned out worse than you planned :(
But here you go...
I made a larger one because I thought it looked better, but I also made it in the 400 x 100 that you asked
I love your work! I am currently a teenager in an art school working on things like this, i'd love if you could show me some of your techniques, ideas or tips and I would be happy to help or work with you someday.
Sorry I haven't gotten around to yours Avalae, I have been occupied with colleges and scholarships, however I will get yours done eventually!
You're quite welcome Kronic, and Oiink, I don't really know if I have my own "original" technique, when I first started creating signatures roughly 8 or 9 months ago, I only looked up tutorials and followed them exactly how they were explained, however now I just "freestyle" everything, but I'm sure my technique is originated from these tuts, so here are some of the tutorials I used to use and enjoy:
I tend to use a lot of C4Ds, smudge, sharpen/blur, do weird lighting effects and color effects, and I'm a gradient abuser D:
You do realize that you need to quote the source reference for the materials you are using? Where are the photos from? The drawings? Or are you assuming that they are all © free since you are not selling anything and claiming Fair use?
How do you know some are not restricted or that the artists is OK with derivative work without references? Deviant Art explains this clearly in their faqs. I recommend you familiarize yourself with it.
If you are using another Artists photos or drawings the courtesy is to link and reference the artist not jsut say "Hey I just googled an image and took it". So quote the original artist source and if you can not find the source the rule of thumbs is NOT to use it.
Edited by Kylíe on 2/1/13 3:48 PM (PST)
Please show me where this is a legitimate "rule", otherwise, I'm disregarding it.
Also, I don't use google, I'm sure you will assume it's the same exact thing, but I go to a website that specifically has stocks, renders, C4Ds, and etcetera that is supposed to be used for photoshop experiments.
Are you going to expect a kid who saves photos on the internet that someone else took, then puts some silly quote on it, and republishes it on Facebook, for example, to source everything? (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about...)
In fact, most of the things I use don't even have a source, except from the website that already allows you to use it.
But if you really want, I'll stop doing this here, just to avoid a huge debate and drama that I can already foresee.
By the way, I've honestly never seen any signature maker source anything except maybe title the creation with a reference to what they tried to find. Check out youtube, look up some examples of forum signatures on google images, whatever it is, when do ANY of these artists source where the "original" picture come from?
Edited by Pandalol on 2/2/13 9:18 AM (PST)
Ever heard of something called the DMCA? I would recommend you read about it and familiarize yourself with what is called Copyright Law and Fair Use.
If you chose to disregard those then be my guest. I was only trying to help you understand what you are doing. Here are some links about what a single site (Deviantart) says about using other people's work
If you are hiding behind the fact that someone already broke a copyright by posting something on a site then I would strongly recommend you read the terms of service of that site first. Because an image or photo displayed on a site does not mean the person who put it there has the right to do so. You knowing that and re using the image/photo means you are not paying attention to the fact that the original owner may not want his/her art to be spread like this...especially for image macros and memes.
These sites clearly say: Image may be subject to copyright.
One of your examples has a photo of a woman. I can bet you that this image came from a site that sells these to graphic designers for a fee or from a commercial or a photographer's portfolio. It may even be attached to a certain brand.
It is your own decision to understand that the image is not yours and that you should exercise restraint and not use that image because you can not source it. It is both about legality and honesty. I am only trying to explain to you that what you are doing by taking other people's work and modifying them is not right if you clearly say you do not care about the origin and that "everybody does it" or that "it was posted somewhere else".
here is one of the images you used
This one for example clearly was not intended to be used by people as part of their signatures on a gaming website. The model and the photographer would not approve of that use. Now that you know this you can either decide that you do not care and willingly break the copyright that is on this image source or decide to find a photo where you can credit the artists...it really is up to you
You seem to hide behind the fact that many people like yourself do NOT credit the original artists and that is the problem because you are essentially saying that because nobody else does it then you are not going to do it. It is not honest when you have been informed.
If you want to share your love of photoshop then use your own source materials and sign your work and become a real digital artist and put those signatures on your website. Then one day maybe someone will take your work and use it in another setting and then you will understand what I tried to convey to you.
An informed person is a better person. Don't dismiss things just because you do not like or believe them
Edited by Xaethera on 2/24/13 11:53 AM (PST)
While the formation of law and DMCA is applicable in many situations. When the work is free and used in part to make a signature. Many artists simple do not mind. I am one of those artists. Now if my work is used at cost (and I mean significant cost) then I might consider otherwise. Let it go then if they do for free,cheaply, or off donations. The above user is NOT the first person to use pictures in signatures. And at large as stated MOST artists do not care when used in that way. They would care if it was put on a business website, or claimed as their work, etc etc.
I did look through the library they had. And to be honest, forgive the bluntness. The signatures could use more personal touch. Given using a image search engine. Most of the signatures have very little done to them. Outside some text and basic effects. If you want to create a unique representation for people. Spend a bit more effort and time. It'll show in the end results.
On a design approach they are basic. Though they are signatures so thats fine. The best thing I can say at most for them is the following. The font and font coloring is fairly decently chosen for each signature. The lack of editing and using basic templates/pictures just makes them a dime a dozen signature. If you spent a lot of time and effort this could be ramped up. And truthfully worth donations and/or a small fee. As is, I feel the donations are not worth those seeking signatures.
In closing those people should use a signature generator. Some really nice ones out there if people look for them. Otherwise using GIMP (free image program) .. it is very easy to make your own in a few minutes of effort.