01/20/2013 05:30 PMI had already specifically said, "Heavy AOE."
Posted by Tiriél
talking about heavy AoE. I wasn't
talking about heavy AoE until you
came in and responded to me
with a discussion of heavy AoE. I
was talking about tools that Disc ought to be able to use regularly for (assorted and unspecified types of) AoE healing.
Also, I'm not saying it would be "maximum HPS" to use Penance or PoH. That never even came into the equation. I was never considering what would make me look best on the meters. I'm considering what will get the job done, Kaels. After knowing me this long, I'm a bit flabbergasted that you keep harping on HPS like I somehow give a flying rat's behind what my HPS is when people are dying in my raid. You know better.
I never implied that you were doing it for the meters. I just acknowledged that your spell choice might be different for heavy raidwide AoE, presumably because you need the higher throughput (also possibly because you're healing with a paladin. I play a paladin in a pally/disc comp, God knows I need the disc priest doing the blanket healing because I sure can't.)
You don't have to concede that it doesn't belong in a heavey-raidwide-damage rotation, since you never play the spec. You haven't been in the fights with the heavy raidwide damage as Disc, and you have no real-world idea whether it would be useful or not.
...you know I spent the entire beta testing Disc, right? You know I tested probably 2/3 of this tier's fights as Disc on both normal and heroic, 10, 25, and LFR? Don't tell me you've forgotten the 72 million beta threads about Disc issues that I started.
At the time, there were a whole lot of issues besides this one (being OOM halfway through every fight with 1/3 of the monk's healing done was fun), but this was an issue then, an issue in Cata, and I refuse to believe it's suddenly become not-an-issue just because it's been papered over again by godmode DAs. I don't need to play live Disc to know that it is important for every healer to have a way to heal multitarget damage that is not evenly distributed across a group.
Does Penance actually fill that void right now? I don't know. It seems to see some use for that purpose. Should it be fixed to fill that gap better? Absolutely yes...unless you're suggesting adding a new spell that does. In the absence of a new spell, Penance should
be good enough to be counted among your AoE heals. It should have a level of importance on par with, and a role roughly similar to, CoH. If it's not currently good enough, it should be made to be good enough.
Does that make more sense?