Ret getting pvp love!!!??!!

90 Human Paladin
9655
"We agree that Retribution does not offer enough benefits to an Arena or Battleground team beyond just taking a Holy paladin. We are going to try a change where Hand of Sacrifice also dispels all harmful magic effects on the target for Ret only."

From latest patch notes on mmo-champion!

Is it enough to bring one into an RBG?
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
6645
Nope but every bit helps
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90 Human Paladin
6365
The thing is that we need to bring something to Arena/RBGs that make us useful to the group. People have to hear that a Ret is available, and say to themselves "Ooh, now we'll have ____!" which must be significant offense, or defensive utility.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
8865
people will cry if rets are acceptable in rbgs
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1 Draenei Priest
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I dislike how it's attached to a Hand Spell. It further cements Clemency into being mandatory for Retribution PVP.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
5940
01/31/2013 01:28 AMPosted by Klarana
I dislike how it's attached to a Hand Spell. It further cements Clemency into being mandatory for Retribution PVP.


Clemency is as good as cemented into mandatory status for Ret PvP anyway. Also, beggars can't be choosers.
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1 Draenei Priest
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01/31/2013 01:39 AMPosted by Zaldeth
Clemency is as good as cemented into mandatory status for Ret PvP anyway. Also, beggars can't be choosers.


Too true. However, it'd be nice if all our PVP group utility wasn't tied to this talent
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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01/31/2013 01:55 AMPosted by Klarana
Too true. However, it'd be nice if all our PVP group utility wasn't tied to this talent


Yeah, and the problem is they can't buff the other talents to compensate, because we can't have Holy getting any buffs now can we?
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1 Draenei Priest
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01/31/2013 02:11 AMPosted by Zaldeth
Yeah, and the problem is they can't buff the other talents to compensate, because we can't have Holy getting any buffs now can we?


Make Clemency baseline for Ret =D
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90 Human Paladin
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If Ret had Umbreakable Spirt, Hand of Purity AND Clemency as baseline it whould be still weak. As it is, Ret heal self for nothing. Every class can heal up for 120k every 2 mins at least without sacrificing damage for it.
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90 Draenei Hunter
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01/31/2013 07:26 AMPosted by Crono
If Ret had Umbreakable Spirt, Hand of Purity AND Clemency as baseline it whould be still weak. As it is, Ret heal self for nothing. Every class can heal up for 120k every 2 mins at least without sacrificing damage for it.


incorrect. mages must channel their heal, and it is a long channel at that. it stops everything the mage can do except pet root.

shadow priests must drop shadowform to heal. this not only gives their dots a chance to fall off but it also drops their extra dmg reduction.

shamans also have to hard cast their heals... or enh has to burn their stacks on heals instead of dmg.

etc etc. ret's lack of self healing is felt by others as well
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90 Human Paladin
6885
If Ret had Umbreakable Spirt, Hand of Purity AND Clemency as baseline it whould be still weak. As it is, Ret heal self for nothing. Every class can heal up for 120k every 2 mins at least without sacrificing damage for it.


incorrect. mages must channel their heal, and it is a long channel at that. it stops everything the mage can do except pet root.

shadow priests must drop shadowform to heal. this not only gives their dots a chance to fall off but it also drops their extra dmg reduction.

shamans also have to hard cast their heals... or enh has to burn their stacks on heals instead of dmg.

etc etc. ret's lack of self healing is felt by others as well


Cold snap is 30% of their health, instant and it resets cooldowns.
Edited by Vod on 1/31/2013 5:49 PM PST
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