02/05/2013 09:49 PMI believe the orcs would have had to show clear signs of surrendering for that to be true. But they didn't they were advancing directly toward the alliance position.
Posted by Lena
Yes, because people swimming for their lives int he water pose a threat to a towering SKYship. There was no threat it was cold blooded murder. but it may have saved the Alliance a big headache. Stop moralizing it and just accept that inw ar sometimes you forgoe morals for convenience.
Also with the Kirin Tor, Jaina was made leader of a COUNCIL, of which tere were Horde members or at least a member. I don't recall any evidence of the council signing off on the purge. Also, the Kirin Tor backed up the Alliance in theramore BEFORE they had any knowledge of Sunreaver involvement. Whya re the Kirin Tor allwoed to help the Alliance but the Sunreavers cannot help the Horde?
The real answer is that no one can do anything, there simply is. jaina has the pwoer to cast people she doesn't like out, neutrality is irrelevant as an ideal if it isn;t true in practice. Stop preteneding that the Kirin Tor was anything but an Alliance proxy. the Horde were kept there as a fake sign of good will, onyl as long as they remained useful. The Kirin Tor had no problem sacrificing Sunreaver mages tot he Blue Dragonflight during the Nexus War. As soonas your use runs out you are a dead man.
Likewise with Theramore, that was a separate military encounter between two factions, and the Kirin Tor helped the Alliance in theramore. Youa re just mad that the Horde helped themselves, and it was more effective.
At least now the Horde can profit from Sunreaver magic without being watched over by the Alliance puppets at the Kirin tor.
My point is not about justified versus unjustified, it is simply that we should not pretend any neutrality was broken, there was never neutrality and jaina just got pissed the second that the Horde helped themselves to some of that good stuff that she was monopolizing. Mucht he way that the corrupt factory owner calls in the shock troops when a gang of dissatisfied workers breaks his machines that put them out of work. There was no noble ideal in jaina's actions. it was cold and calculated, it was a good move, but it was never for some high mided neutral ideal, it was simply peeling the veneer off of what had always been true. Those Silver Covenant mages couldn't wait to literally feed the Sindorei to the sharks.
Right and wrong is actually irrelevant to this discussion, neither side is acting out of some moral ideal but out of pure self interest, regardless of what they say, their actions speak much louder.