02/15/2013 09:30 AMI have suggested that the raid guilds consider organizing some realm-wide LFR runs (readily and easily done) so they can 1) meet others outside their own guilds and evaluate players en masse for possible suitability for future raid spots and 2) engage in community building.
Posted by Einthe
Again this seems to just be asking the already established guilds to put the work on them. As for horde side, we do try to PuG people even for normal MV runs but some people are even reluctant to get DBM or vent, which are essential if you are trying to teach someone how boss mechanics work or even how they can improve themselves with their gear/spec/class/rotation/etc.
Myself and other posters have also suggested that by eliminating the self-imposed barrier of "guild only" criteria for inclusion in a raid group, that smaller guilds with interested raiders would be a good source of stable and reliable fillers for the raid guilds. In addition, I am working to set up raid groups with the smaller guilds on the realm. We likely won't get very far in progression, but at least we are forging ahead, and taking solid steps to bridge the widening knowledge and skill gap between the highly-skilled uber-raiders on our realm and the rest of us.
To be blunt, you don't seem to be acknowledging the fact that the raiding guilds on this server have a hard enough time organizing their own raids. The raiding guilds on this server aren't full of tons of raiders who all have the ability and experience to help organize/lead raids WHILE teaching folks who want to stay in their small community guild but still try to raid. It's been said before, the guilds on this server allow friends and family from what I can tell so joining them isn't going to alienate you from those friends who may not be interested or are unable to raid. The bigger/more experienced guilds have a wealth of knowledge that can help people progress at a faster pace and could also most likely make you a better player overall. Guild consolidation is a must. It has to happen if you want this server to be successful.
I'm not saying every guild needs to be dismantled and destroyed, but if you're a raiding guild that only has 5-6 consistent raiders then that's a significant problem. That problem should not just be pawned off onto the rest of the server for other people to fix. Either create an established run that goes at the same times every week and that can build itself over time, or work with another guild to merge two groups of those 5-6 raiders into one. Not everything will be perfect, but people have to be willing to sit out some nights and it might just motivate people to perform better if they know they're being pushed for their spot in a raid. As long as people are mature about raid spots and people can sit out every now and then (this is something even your best players should be able to deal with cause people have to understand to realistically field a raid group, you need more people than your group actually has to accommodate for RL issues)
you are much more likely to develop a solid group that can go into raids and learn together.
Don't be afraid to ask for help, either on raid strats or logistics. I ask for advice all the time from other people and it has helped me out tremendously. Ego's are a big issue in the raiding scene, whether it's elitism or people not being able to understand their not helping the raid (likely because they showed up w/o any knowledge of the fights or their class) and having to sit out. I've said it before, but raiding should be a fun environment where people can work together to solve problems that happen on wipes and progress through different bosses. People who want to raid need to be willing to both accept criticism and also have patience, not everyone is going to pickup mechanics as quickly as others will. BOTH sides need to be willing to work on this; the people who get it after an attempt or two should try to help the other people AND the people who are struggling with the mechanics need to be able to accept criticism and learn from whatever their mistakes were. This paragraph is a bit off topic, but it's important to those who want to raid and be successful to be able to accept certain realities and take the time to improve their own awareness and ability.