whats wrong with special snowflakes?

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So, I've been reading these forums recently and some people on here I just actually can't fathom their thinking process when they say things like "AWW NOW YOU CANT BE A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE NOW LOL!"

My question is, what's wrong with wanting to be prestigious in a game that encourages it? Well, maybe not anymore, but, in prior expansions there definitely were people who felt like "special snowflakes". There's actually an absurd amount of socialist attitudes on the forums, everybody wants to be "equal" on WoW. MMO's such as WoW are based off PROGRESSION. You progress your gear and character.

Example. Back in Wrath of the Lich King, you needed a certain rating to acquire each of the five main pieces of the PvP set, the highest being 2000 rated for shoulders and 2200 for the "elite" weapons. In Cataclysm they removed the rating requirements for everything but the Elite weapons, and made an Elite set of gear for cosmetic purposes. People complained that this made it so bad players could get the same gear as them, and people were ridiculed for being "special snowflakes". What's wrong with wanting to have something that not everybody can get?

If you dumb down everything so that everybody can achieve everything, then what fun is that? What's the point of even playing if you don't have to put effort into anything and just get everything handed to you..? This game thrived in prior expansions because you HAD to put the effort in to be the best, and when you did, it was a great feeling.

What if you worked at a job with 4 other employees for a long time, and you clearly did more to get ahead at the job, and you finally got the promotion. You'd almost feel like a "special snowflake", right? But wait, then the 4 employees complain that the work is too hard for them, even though YOU did it and accomplished it. So your boss decides to make it easier for the 4 employees to get promotions. You'd feel pretty pissed right?

The people who say "Oh, you can't be a special snowflake anymore" are usually the people who don't put any effort into the game and are actually terrible.

And don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying Casuals are ruining WoW. What in my opinion is ruining WoW is the lack of prestige felt when accomplishing something, because you know the content will be dumbed down after a few months so everybody who doesn't want to try can clear it.
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90 Draenei Hunter
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There's nothing wrong with feeling prestige when you accomplish something.

But it's a fragile ego that only feels prestige if others know that he or she accomplished something.
Edited by Kyrthae on 2/1/2013 12:12 PM PST
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90 Undead Warrior
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Stopped reading as soon as you compared people to socialists.
Tired of reading garbage like that.
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1 Human Hunter
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There's nothing wrong with feeling prestige when you accomplish something.

But it's a fragile ego that only feels prestige if others know that he or she accomplished something.


Everybody has an ego. I can't think of one person I've met who isn't egotistical in some way.
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90 Human Warlock
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02/01/2013 12:15 PMPosted by Supladiesz
Everybody has an ego. I can't think of one person I've met who isn't egotistical in some way.


Then you need to meet more people.
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90 Troll Priest
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I'd stop being so concerned about what everyone else is doing and focus on yourself.

I feel pretty good when we kill a new boss, even if we are doing a lot later, because I am doing it with people I enjoy playing with and playing a game I really love.
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90 Draenei Hunter
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Everybody has an ego. I can't think of one person I've met who isn't egotistical in some way.


Yes. Many people feel the need to brag, or bring things up in convo, to placate their ego.

But that's not what I said.
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90 Human Paladin
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Stopped reading as soon as you compared people to socialists.
Tired of reading garbage like that.


Hes not wrong

Character uniqueness keeps people playing the game. Why would you want to log in and look just like everyone else?

There's nothing wrong with feeling prestige when you accomplish something.

But it's a fragile ego that only feels prestige if others know that he or she accomplished something.


And its envy to demand that you have access to what the other guy has.

Both are human nature.
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90 Pandaren Monk
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If you dumb down everything so that everybody can achieve everything, then what fun is that? What's the point of even playing if you don't have to put effort into anything and just get everything handed to you..?


You've never played any other games, have you?

I can name literally hundreds of games with no form of unlock system, where every single person is given everything straight out of the gate, and they are still astoundingly fun, ranging from FPS games to card games to puzzle games.
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90 Draenei Hunter
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And its envy to demand that you have access to what the other guy has.



Yes, yes it is. I'm not sure how that is in anyway a counter to my point.
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90 Human Paladin
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02/01/2013 12:20 PMPosted by Bobmuffins
I can name literally hundreds of games with no form of unlock system, where every single person is given everything straight out of the gate, and they are still astoundingly fun, ranging from FPS games to card games to puzzle games.


Because those games are designed that way

This game is designed as a carrot-on-a-stick game, you work to get things.

Yes, yes it is. I'm not sure how that is in anyway a counter to my point


Wasnt countering, was supplimenting. People usually go "What harm does it do to you that someone has something you have", they forget "What harm does it do to you, to not have something you've gotten along thus far without"?
Edited by Paladinchaz on 2/1/2013 12:22 PM PST
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90 Orc Hunter
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BUT I HAVE IT AND I'VE HAD IT LONGER AND YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BECAUSE I'M THE SPECIAL UNIQUE GOD CHILD AND I'M BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE I HAVE IT AND YOU DON'T!!!!!

That's what's wrong with them.

Edit; asking for things to become available again isn't envy, exactly. It's been years and years since Vanilla, so the people who can use them for transmog are few and far between. Eventually, there won't be any left at all. What's the point of the gear, in that case? Reopening it for a select few is just realistic and reasonable. I wanted to use a staff for my priest, but couldn't. I'm not jealous of those that can (found something else anyway), but it's a shame that the devs designed all that gear... and no one can use it.
Edited by Cozzene on 2/1/2013 12:26 PM PST
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90 Pandaren Monk
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Because those games are designed that way

This game is designed as a carrot-on-a-stick game, you work to get things.


Certainly, that it is.

Does it need to be, though? I don't think so.

I'd be willing to bet at least 90% of people don't raid to get gear, they raid because they like raiding. The same for PvP- 90% of those who like PvP do it because they enjoy RBGs/Arena, not to get gear. Hell, PvP would undeniably be a million times better if all gear was equal.
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90 Human Paladin
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02/01/2013 12:24 PMPosted by Bobmuffins
Does it need to be, though? I don't think so.


Yes it does, its an essential design that keeps pay to play MMORPGS keep going.

Keeping people working towards stuff keeps them paying subs.
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90 Human Paladin
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<- Snow
<- special
<- flake

<- "Special Snow flake"


That was pretty corny, you are now a Special Cornflake
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90 Human Warlock
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<- Snow
<- special
<- flake

<- "Special Snow flake"


/insert interchangeable jokes about the usage of the word special
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90 Draenei Hunter
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02/01/2013 12:21 PMPosted by Paladinchaz
People usually go "What harm does it do to you that someone has something you have", they forget "What harm does it do to you, to not have something you've gotten along thus far without"?


Understood. It's just that it seems to me that I see way more "People keep whining for epicz!!!!111" threads and comments than I do people actually whining for epics.
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90 Pandaren Monk
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02/01/2013 12:25 PMPosted by Paladinchaz
Does it need to be, though? I don't think so.


Yes it does, its an essential design that keeps pay to play MMORPGS keep going.

Keeping people working towards stuff keeps them paying subs.


I legitimately do not understand this thought process.

"ughhh this game is so boring i just wanna get one more fancy hat oh right here's your monthly $15"? What? Why? Why are you willingly paying for something you don't enjoy?
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