Topic My ideas for Illidan's return and next expac
Azzeron
Bloodhoof
Azzeron
90 Night Elf Druid
3775
Ok, it seems a lot of people want Illidan to come back, and I'm one of them. This is my idea.

Sargeras returns for a final assault on Azeroth, and possibly allies with the last old god that is hiding, N'zoth, and gives N'zoth his other eye for more power, which would make this the Second Eye of Sargeras. Illidan gets revived somehow from his remaining followers, and of course, Demon Hunters, (or possibly even the Goddess Elune, that would be interesting) to stop the Burning Legion.

While Illidan barely has any followers left, and this final assault is by far the most powerful one from Sargeras, he begins training a legion of Demon Hunters from the Horde and Alliance, because they know they can't defeat the Burning Legion even combined, so they trust Illidan and form a temporary alliance with him. No one is forced to become a Demon Hunter, but can volunteer, and some from both factions do. This would make Demon Hunter the new hero class.

Then, as we defeat whatever bosses there will be, (with Illidan's help of course) We also kill N'zoth, and Illidan takes the second Eye of Sargeras, absorbing it and becoming a Demi-God like Cenarius. Then, we come face to face with Sargeras himself, and Illidan uses his new powers seal him away for eternity, (With the help of the Horde and Alliance heroes) since I don't think he can actually be destroyed.

After this happens, Malfurion realizes Elune revived him, so he forgives Illidan, accepting him for who he is, and also apologizes for the way he treated him, vice versa and the two brothers become friendly again. Illidan also is no longer bothered that Tyrande is with Malfurion, because he realizes that as long as she's happy, he's happy. The Horde and Alliance recognize this and learn from it, resulting in both factions being at peace with each other. (LOREWISE of course, still need to keep PvP for the game) So this also adds a nice moral to the story.

Anyways, Illidan stays neutral with the Horde and Alliance, and him and his forces become Azeroth's defense against remnants of The Burning Legion, since there's so many demons they can't all be destroyed. I am also aware that for levels 90-95, or possibly 90-100, there will have to be a new area for questing and such. I suppose since there would be little demonic threat, Illidan could purge Outland of the rest of the demons, and become Lord of Outland once again, adding brand new quests for levels 58-60, and 90-95 or 90-100.

Another choice could be that since he's on ok terms with the Draenei, and the Naaru hate the Burning Legion, they let Illidan use their dimensional/space traveling powers so he can go to an uninhabited planet and rule there with his Demon Hunters. This would also be the new leveling area for 90-95 or 90-100.

So, what does everyone think of this? I think it would make an amazing final expansion, I thought of these ideas on my own, and a few details came from Guildies I was discussing this with. Illidan was just too unique of a character, and was just misunderstood, and a lot of players were disappointed with the way he died, including me. I'm not going to go on about that though, since that's another subject. Thoughts?
Azzeron
Bloodhoof
Azzeron
90 Night Elf Druid
3775
Edited by Azzeron on 2/7/13 9:18 PM (PST)
He really wasn't evil. He only wanted to destroy the Burning Legion, and he definitely loved Tyrande. If he was as evil as you say he is, wouldn't he serve the Burning Legion and help destroy Azeroth? Yes, some of the things he did were only for himself, but in the long run he was gaining all of this power to prove himself to Malfurion/Tyrande and the Night Elves. He never really hated them, he always wanted to be accepted by them, and show them that he does not serve the Burning Legion.

If you think about it, Illidan was actually pretty selfless at times. You also sound like you don't know much about the lore, but I could be wrong.
Veloran
Wyrmrest Accord
Veloran
90 Blood Elf Paladin
7725
us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7810521914
No. Illidan should not come back. He's dead. Period, the end. He lived evil and died evil. Good riddance.


Naaaaaaahhh.
Searik
Alterac Mountains
Searik
90 Goblin Mage
11415
Blizzard said they would like to bring Illidan back. They funny thing about their story is that is is their story, and their universe. Honestly they really can do whatever the !@#$ they want, creating loop holes and such.

As long as it is done well I don't mind.

Also Sargeras won't ally with N'Zoth, that just seems too Marvel... My idea's for N'Zoth are from another thread:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7810522498:

7.2: The Rift: You have to enter the Emerald Dream and fight you way to the Rift, which has been radiating a new Nightmare since Malfurion contained it. The Raid will involve N'Zoth with a very creepy raid dungeon.
Searik
Alterac Mountains
Searik
90 Goblin Mage
11415
02/07/2013 09:26 PMPosted by Rufyn
Yes, I'm jaded from all the love people give h for no reason. He was a selfish, power hungry, egotistical and homicidal man who deserved his death.


As are all successful men in history, and in present day too if you cut out the homicidal part... hopefully...
Azzeron
Bloodhoof
Azzeron
90 Night Elf Druid
3775
He had no other choice but to "work" with the legion or else they would destroy him. He didn't actually support what they wanted to do. Actually, he fought the legion numerous times. He fought them in Outland, and killed Magtheridon with Kael'Thas, Lady Vashj, and Akama. The Draenei actually felt like they owed Illidan for saving them from the legion. Yes, after a while Akama wanted to remove Illidan from his tyranny and return the black temple to the way it used to be. But he never "enslaved" them.

He helped them in my eyes, but Akama just wasn't satisfied. Akama pledged his loyalty to Illidan in the first place, but ended up allying with Maiev. Akama betrayed Illidan in a way. Illidan wanted Kael and his people to have what they wanted, he wanted to be on good terms with his brother, and he wanted to overthrow the evil burning legion. I see where you're coming from, and there may have been times where he made mistakes and acted selfishly, but everyone makes mistakes. He also did selfless things though. Deep down, he does want to be accepted. And he would help Azeroth, because if he didn't, he would be destroyed by the burning legion or enslaved by them, and horde and alliance would be destroyed.
Azzeron
Bloodhoof
Azzeron
90 Night Elf Druid
3775
All bias aside, it is hard to justify whether he is a hero or a villain. I personally think he's a hero with some problems. Like I said, he wants to be accepted, but he is misunderstood. It's a touchy subject, and everyone has their own opinion on it. I don't believe he was as selfish and evil as you make him out to be, so naturally I disagree with you. Maybe because I feel like I can relate to him in a way. But this is my opinion, and that's that. But I understand your point of view.
Pete
Kil'jaeden
Pete
90 Human Paladin
12630
I've always viewed Illidan as a good individual that tried to do the things on his agenda the wrong way, or as viewed in Night Elf society at the time as the wrong way. And eventually it got to the point where no matter what he did, society marked it as something evil because of his past.

If the next expansion is going to be Burning Legion themed you can expect Illidan to make a return. My guess is Demon Hunters will be the new class and he will play a major role in the Demon Hunter starting zone, (kind of like the Lich King in the Death Knight starting zone). We'll see Illidan throughout the new zones leading the way in taking out the Burning Legion and we'll see him again leading the way in taking out w/e the final boss is.
Anargyros
Emerald Dream
Anargyros
90 Human Death Knight
7330
Edited by Anargyros on 2/7/13 10:44 PM (PST)
Yes lets create a half-assed nonsensical reason as to why a dead man is suddenly brought back and is for some reason not completely homicidally insane anymore.

Then we can proceed to wreck his character and play him out to be stupid and ineffectual in order to protect status quo, thus creating a violent hatedom of his character who screams for his death on the forums.

Really people are asking for an Elvis. He was 'totally awesome' so lets overuse him to the point that we are all sickened and disgusted with him. I think Blizzards desire to bring him back was seen in full fruition in the Cata dungeon Well of Eternity, and even then everything about that arc was silly. Also Eelidan.

So no, its a terrible idea that would have terrible consequences on both the story, and the character.
Azzeron
Bloodhoof
Azzeron
90 Night Elf Druid
3775
That's what I'm saying, there's no doubt he was misunderstood. I also believe he is a good individual. He's a very unique and interesting character, and can't just be killed and forgotten like that. The Demon Hunter starting zone would be like the Death Knight one, except Illidan obviously wouldn't betray them all. They'd be horde/alliance from the second you make them, depending on what race you chose.
Azzeron
Bloodhoof
Azzeron
90 Night Elf Druid
3775
Well Anargyros, all I can say to that is I disagree.
Kurze
Moon Guard
Kurze
90 Orc Warlock
11315
Illidan was a lot like Tai Lung, the villain from Kung Fu Panda.

Neither of them started out as evil, but both of them had monstrously inflated egos and a deluded sense of self-importance based on someone telling them that they were 'special' or makred for a great destiny when they were young.

As they grew up and began to realize that the world wasn't going to be to fit their self-images (Tai Lung wouldn't get the Dragon Scroll, while Illidan's affections for Tyrande were not returned and Malfurion was becoming a bigger hero than him) they each tried to force it, under the belief that once they did this one thing people would recognize how awesome they were and they would get the hero status they believed they deserved. Petty selfishness supplanted ambition and they became threats rather than heros.

If Illidan had simply grown up (to use a trite phrase) and mellowed out a bit, he might have been a legendary hero, but his own gigantic ego was his worst enemy, and it warped him into a monster. Sure, sometimes his actions had good consequences, but at heart his ambitions were always the same - me, me me.

Illidan's story borders on Greek tragedy - his own faults rose up and consumed him, and in the end his own arrogance was his downfall.
Grimtale
Mok'Nathal
Grimtale
90 Human Death Knight
11590
I'd honestly compare Illidan more to Vegeta, always wanting to prove himself and become more powerful.

Or Zuko. Both are examples of characters who can be turned back over the good side.
Evilgenius
Alterac Mountains
Evilgenius
90 Gnome Warlock
8985
Illidan serves the story better as a dead mean. Let him be. If anything give Maiev some kind of non-bat!@#$ insane story.
Azzeron
Bloodhoof
Azzeron
90 Night Elf Druid
3775
I agree Grimtale. Illidan wasn't necessarily evil. He has potential to become "good" or at least neutral with everyone, which is what I said he would become. I think he should return, there's so much more they can do with the lore.

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