Why dont Alliance just allow Undead?

100 Human Paladin
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It's not even viable for fresh undead to join the Alliance as well, as apparently freshly raised undead are under some kind of insane battle-rage that the Forsaken harness to fire them off against the Alliance. It's a great bridge-burner on both ends. The Alliance don't trust the undead that were just turned against them and so enthusiastically fought, and the undead don't feel they can go back because, well, they just finished killing their former comrades in a blind rage.
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90 Human Death Knight
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02/07/2013 07:26 PMPosted by Draile
Misunderstand of the story. Thassarian was sent on a suicide mission by Scourge spies pulling the strings of the Alliance military.


Which really opens my eyes after constantly hearing people say "Nope, Thassarian was sent there because humans hate the dead!"

It's obvious that Varian has a more open mind than that, otherwise he wouldn't also be allowing Warlocks to help out against the Horde.

02/07/2013 07:26 PMPosted by Draile
After that quest line he was an important part of the Alliance military forces.


This is true. Putting someone who utilizes necromancy in a commanding position isn't exactly small beans.
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100 Blood Elf Warlock
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02/07/2013 10:08 PMPosted by Vesran
It's not even viable for fresh undead to join the Alliance as well, as apparently freshly raised undead are under some kind of insane battle-rage that the Forsaken harness to fire them off against the Alliance. It's a great bridge-burner on both ends. The Alliance don't trust the undead that were just turned against them and so enthusiastically fought, and the undead don't feel they can go back because, well, they just finished killing their former comrades in a blind rage.


the Cdev specificaly says that "some" newly raised undead are in a "frenzy state" not all, not most, not few, ect. an amount enter this state based on some random detail, and stress increases the likelyhood of this state being present at raising but does not ensure it.

it seems like the forsaken raise undead faceing the enemy in combat so that the new undead wake up in the frenzy state and just go after the humans, or the new undead wake up with humans charging them with weapons drawn. you can switch the word humans with alliance.

in both cases you end up with people who are overly agressive or foced to "defend" themselves from seemingly hostile people in the chaos of a battle.
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100 Human Death Knight
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02/07/2013 07:26 PMPosted by Liopy
Right, because the humans didn't work with the forsaken at all and then got back stabbed for their trouble.


Understandable comment, but if the alliance could take out Sylvanas then that evil is gone(please don't kill her I love her)


The rot, as it were, goes far deeper than Sylvanas. At the very least, the Royal Apothecaries would also need to go.
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90 Dwarf Paladin
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Even if they can't rejoin human society, that still leaves the question of why they are so incredibly hostile to the Alliance and why they are so receptive of the Horde. There'd be at least some reluctance to kill their former neighbors, especially if the Forsaken actually do feel bad about the stuff they did while being members of the Scourge. They also wouldn't want to join the ones that once tried to kill them all down to the last man woman and child.
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