Blizz should make a heroic BRD dungeon

90 Pandaren Monk
6960
Yes I know I will be getting some people on here to post stupid stuff about having a heroic BRD but come on guys, we need harder dungeons and BRD was really hard back in WoW release. I would love if they redid BRD for a heroic and have all 19 bosses and the one rare boss as well, since they are starting to redo a lot of old wow content. BRD was and still is my favorite dungeon and it always will be and would hope for a heroic version that is truly hard. I can only wish and dream for this day but it will not come because people do not like stuff hard.
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90 Pandaren Warrior
15860
Not until Sunken Temple is revamped to its former glory as a heroic
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90 Human Paladin
16345
They should toy around with the idea of making it a casual 5-men "raid" with weekly lockout dropping LFR gears...
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90 Orc Death Knight
tys
9350
Blizzard has indicated that they will not be making long dungeons anymore; I believe there was a blue post emphasizing how a dungeon should be completed during a lunch break.
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100 Dwarf Death Knight
17615
02/12/2013 12:07 AMPosted by Attackknight
lizzard has indicated that they will not be making long dungeons anymore


Which is a probable indication we'll see one.
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90 Orc Death Knight
tys
9350
02/12/2013 12:20 AMPosted by Postonforums
lizzard has indicated that they will not be making long dungeons anymore


Which is a probable indication we'll see one.


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/4488898/

Q. What didn’t work out as planned or expected?

Initially, we started off the Heroic dungeons at too high of a difficulty. The difficulty level rather abruptly changed when compared to the Heroics players experienced at the end of Wrath of the Lich King. This major change caught many players off guard, and frustrated some of them. The difficulty also increased the effective amount of time required to complete a dungeon to a longer experience than we wanted. With the release of patch 4.3 we’re now in a much better place. We’ve always talked about being able to complete a dungeon over lunch, and the Hour of Twilight dungeons get us back to that goal. End Time, Well of Eternity, and Hour of Twilight all provide epic play experiences to our players, but at the real sweet spot of difficulty, complexity, and time commitment.
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90 Orc Warrior
10110
02/12/2013 01:59 AMPosted by Attackknight
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/4488898/


You missed the joke, son. When blizzard says they won't do something, they usually end up breaking their promise and doing it.
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90 Orc Death Knight
tys
9350
Fair enough. I suppose GS did make a post about how dungeons would be hard.
Edited by Attackknight on 2/13/2013 1:15 AM PST
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90 Draenei Shaman
9355
I would love a few old-style epic dungeons. BRD is fun.
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100 Human Paladin
13515
I don't think anyone would have a problem with length so long as it wouldn't ever show up as a random- it could have a tab all by itself, much like the holiday bosses. Anyone who signs up for it will know what they're getting into.
Course, that does raise the question of whether enough people will want to run it, and queue times might be low =/
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90 Dwarf Warrior
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02/13/2013 01:15 AMPosted by Attackknight
Fair enough. I suppose GS did make a post about how dungeons would be hard.


"You won't see a legendary like rogue daggers anytime soon" - Firelands blue post on how the staff had too many class choices.
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90 Orc Death Knight
tys
9350
I don't think anyone would have a problem with length so long as it wouldn't ever show up as a random- it could have a tab all by itself, much like the holiday bosses. Anyone who signs up for it will know what they're getting into.
Course, that does raise the question of whether enough people will want to run it, and queue times might be low =/


There needs to be an incentive to finish one in that case.
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97 Night Elf Druid
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02/14/2013 04:35 AMPosted by Attackknight
There needs to be an incentive to finish one in that case.


Well, presumably it gets to be longer by having more bosses, not just more trash. So there's more drops per run (and more lolJP per run). If it is outside the random queue system they could also make it worth increased VP (80 every run, as opposed to the 80 first time/40 for the rest of the day for normal dungeons? Or maybe even 100 every run, if it's long enough to justify it.)

They could also give it vanity rewards like mounts or pets.

Or, if they change their mind about "catch-up" heroics, they could tune the "superheroic" dungeon higher, put on an ilvl entry requirement, and have it drop higher ilvl gear than ordinary heroics, maybe even over 480 so it could get you into T15 LFR (if you had enough of it and/or mixed it with valor gear). That seems unlikely, though, since then it would basically replace T14 LFR, which they probably don't want. Also, making something with higher level drops that you could do as many times as you want would upset the pace of gearing.

If they do make one, though, I'd probably prefer a new one to a rehash.
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90 Human Warrior
11020
Keep in mind some of these extremely hard pre-BC dungeon had very some amazing loot. Ironfoe was a particularly amazing weapon for fury warriors even up until naxx. Also Headmaster's Charge comes to mind as well.

It would be a cool idea to implement 2-3 hours dungeons with challenge mode difficulty that drop some great loot, but it doesn't seem to be the direction the game is headed in. They would definitely have to be off the LFD tool.
Edited by Faust on 2/14/2013 10:02 AM PST
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90 Orc Death Knight
tys
9350
iLevel wise, it'd be easy, we'd want most bosses to drop slightly better say 6-7 ilevels better than current heroic dungeons and the end boss to drop something comparable to LFR gear (that's the incentive to stay).

It would also allow newer players to catch up in terms of gear.

As has been suggested, mounts could also be another incentive.
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100 Blood Elf Warrior
17855
BRD is raid sized at this point. It would be Occulus all over again as a dungeon. People would pop in and immediately drop group.
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