Topic New Raid Leader -- Addon Advice
Edited by Cremate on 2/16/13 8:48 AM (PST)
I was recently elected for the Raid Leader spot on our progression 25m team. This is a hard-casual guild. Meaning we take performance somewhat seriously, and "try" to get as many heroic mode kills as possible before the next patch... but we don't raid 4-5 nights a week to do it. This guild has been formed and raiding successfully for 7 years... so I take ths responsibility seriously.
That being said, I am looking for some advice on addons that I can use to better track encounter progress and raider information. Recount and Skada dont really cut it for me. I need some addons that can accomplish the following things...
1) Let me know if tanks are using their defensive cooldowns.
2) Let me know when and on who battle rezzes were used.
3) Shed light on the reasons people died (Not just "Bob was hit for 400k").
4) Let me know what healer and DPS defensive cooldowns are available to use on tanks or raid.
5) An addon that helps guage healer performance better than just HPS.
6) An addon that lets me determine who is targetting what. As in, is X raider targetting Y boss, or Z add.
I have seen a few addons which could get some of these jobs done. But I wanted to see which ones the Raid Leading community had good experiences with. Are there any others that are helpful to an RL?
Thanks for your time!
So let me get this straight, you want an addon to tell you exactly what other people are doing? I think if someone fails to use a battle rez, you will certainly notice that the battle rez was failed to have been used, and as for the tanks, well they should get on the ball with their own add-ons or whatever shouldn't they?
With DBM though, make sure that they switch everything on, like I can switch on my DBM "Jasper Chains on me!" etc, so you can see that I am moving towards my partner, the minute the chains hit me. So try making sure that those using DBM switch all those buttons to on, so you can see what everyone is doing.
1) Let me know if tanks are using their defensive cooldowns.
The most important raid leader addon, IMO, is not really combat related at all. I always recommend anyone stepping into a raid or guild leadership role download WIM. It is pretty much impossible to keep track of all the various whispers, suggestions, problems, afk requests, etc. in the default UI.
You can get #1 and most of #2 with an addon called ORA3. It has a built-in raid cooldown package that will let you know when the CDs are not available: thus telling you when they were used. You will need to configure it to suit your needs. I currently have it set up to show mostly raid/defensive CDs like Guardian Spirit, Pain Suppression, Devo Aura, Rallying Cry, etc. I'm not sure that you'll find the second part of your request #2 very useful, honestly. Someone in your raid team should be calling the battle rezzes (unless you're a 10-man); it's redundant to know who needed one. Especially given request #3.
For #3, I use an addon called DeathNote. It displays a list of player deaths, and when you click on one will show you all relevant combat events (inc damage, healing, auras applied, etc) in the 10 seconds before someone died. I think that time frame is configurable as well.
I don't know of an addon for #4. I think it's something you just need to know.
As for #5, there's no such thing. There are tools you can use to give you data, but there's no addon that will tell you what it should mean. I would recommend using some kind of combat logging platform. World of Logs is the market leader -- I'm not even sure if there are competitors left anymore. This is a very powerful tool that lets you run custom queries and parse various events that happened during a fight. It's not good for in-combat analysis, and you need to be able to figure out what queries you should be running on a particular fight, but there's no substitute for the information it can give you.
You can approach #6 a myriad of ways. You can use Recount or Skada, though it's not easy to see dynamically. In Skada, you want to enable the "enemies" module. Then after an attempt you can click on a mob that shouldn't be DPSed and see who was damaging it. There are also unit frames like XPerl that will show you how many people are assisting on your target. If you're in a 10-man raid group you could just enable all your raid's player frames and player targets. Or you can parse this information after the fact with World of Logs.
That being said, I am looking for some advice on addons that I can use to better track encounter progress and raider information. Recount and Skada dont really cut it for me.
Use World of Logs to analyze your raid. Everything you're looking for will be there.
First and foremost, Vuhdo is a highly configurable raid frame addon that can show encounter specific buffs/debuffs in addition to player CDs (personal and external). It's only as powerful as you make it, feel free to contact me on server if you need help setting it up.
See Vuhdo above.
Nothing for in combat monitoring, that I'm aware of, but WOL can tell you after the fact. BattleRez can tell you whose res is available, up to the encounter total.
EnsidiaFails and PhoenixStyles. These two separate addons shed a lot of light on failed mechanics and such. Example, Heroic Spine, you could show who did damage on Tendons, who over AOE'd bloods, etc., You can export/post as well to publicize the failures.
Hermes is a great addon for tracking raid cooldowns. There's a bit of setup too it, but that also makes it extremely flexible. You can group healer, tank, dps cooldowns and the likes. You can make specific groupings for interrupt rotations and such as well.
Get a Healing Officer/Captain.
If you're looking for in-combat, Vuhdo can do as you've requested, but its going to make for a large raid frame. Most tooltip addons allow "target of target" data text as well. My question is what are you trying to learn from knowing this?
Addons are only tools its up too you to be omni-aware of your raid. It's not easy, by any stretch of the imagination. As a 25M guild the best tool you have is your players. Learn to delegate responsibilities to trusted raid members. Best example, again, is interrupt rotations, which you could delegate to another player of the raid to coordinate.
I can not stress enough how important it is to not just assume you can micro manage every aspect of your raid. While some people may be able to, it's unlikely that the average human can. Know your limits and ask for help. You're the head of the snake, if you burn out the body is likely to follow.
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There is a battle rez tracker, it's called Brez (it's on curse).
It shows you how many rezes you can still use and who has a battle rez and the state of their cd. (red name when used with cd tracker, total cd length if it's available)
It's not the prettiest addon and I've never tried to skin it with a skinning module but it gets the job done...can take up a bit more space than I like in 25s/lfr but to me the info is worth it.
I also always suggest RaidChecklist. This shows you what buffs/debuffs you have available, who's bringing them, who COULD bring them. Even if just turned to the Hunter setting that focuses mostly on buffs pets can bring it can be a huge asset but it also has multiple expanded settings for raid leading.
To track raid cds and who's used them I used to use KAnnounce. It will print in your chat frame, or party/raid/whatever what cooldowns a person is using, if they are clipping them, etc. It does NOT however tell you all the ones you have with you available, you'd need ora or just a count in your head for that, but that info is nice to have...esp if people are clipping their tranq/hymn/etc.
You should definitely track your raids with world of logs.