DKs are in SERIOUS need of a survivability CD

90 Draenei Death Knight
3485
Dks (Frost and UH) Need some kind of passive health regeneration or a good CD that heals them for 30% instantly or something..The CD s that they have are decent but very lackluster compared to other specs..Also I feel like giving them a stun wouldn't hurt either. What are your opinions? (Im a Frost/Blood DK..I play Frost in PvP and im a PvP player) And before anyone says I need better gear..I've played on the PTR where everyone is equal
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90 Draenei Death Knight
15410
Translation.

There are things you should give. You know those others things in our talents that must not be as important as the talents I am using.

p.s. they're called Death Pact, Asphyxiate & Remorseless Winter.
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89 Undead Death Knight
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not sure what your talking about DK's are way OP in healing as a melee class it sickens me to be in LFR and seeing a DK in the top 4 heals.
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90 Undead Warlock
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02/15/2013 01:38 PMPosted by Drellon
Dks (Frost and UH) Need some kind of passive health regeneration or a good CD that heals them for 30% instantly or something..


Death Pact?
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90 Orc Death Knight
5620
They are sub par defensives in comparison to other classes, but our damage rips every other melee class to shreds. So it's hard to balance.
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90 Gnome Death Knight
6210
Theexploited the only time a DK is in the top 4 heals in LFR is if they are blood. he clearly stated frost and unholy.

However it is not a healing cooldown that we need. It's an avoid almost all dmg for a short time cooldown we need.

Yes we have some cds like death pact that heal for a decent amount in DPS specs (150k) however that 150k heal or even less if you have a healing debuff on you; is such a pitiful survival cooldown in something like arena compared to say a hunters deterrance. I could hit that hunter for his entire hp pool in the time that deterrance is active yet my cooldown heals for 50% or 25% if mortal striked etc (yes I know im supposed to stop hitting him at that point but that's the point of the cooldown). Our IBF is only 20% less dmg taken and does not deter anyone from hitting us when near death lol. Not to mention thats just me if the entire team was to focus him he could avoid upwards of 1mil dmg, something our 150k heal doesnt even stack up against.

This is the main problem with our survivability. We need a CD similar to that of hunters deterrance, mages ice block, paladins bubble, warriors die by the sword, warlocks dark bargain, priests dispersion, rogues evasion + cloak of shadows. Most of the other classes have quite more spammable heals instead.

at the moment I feel DKs are fine in PvE and are fine in BG's however we lack a little something in Arena and I feel that something is something to deter other people from focusing us down in the first 5 - 10 seconds of the match. Even if it's something that leaves us unable to attack back for the duration but lets us avoid almost all damage taken
Edited by Aldmos on 2/15/2013 7:42 PM PST
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100 Draenei Death Knight
10590
02/15/2013 02:42 PMPosted by Theexploited
not sure what your talking about DK's are way OP in healing as a melee class it sickens me to be in LFR and seeing a DK in the top 4 heals.
It's time to leave.
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100 Draenei Death Knight
15350
02/15/2013 07:41 PMPosted by Warcrimes
not sure what your talking about DK's are way OP in healing as a melee class it sickens me to be in LFR and seeing a DK in the top 4 heals.
It's time to leave.


Well this does happen when I tank...... granted the healers are barely hitting 30k HPS, but why should a tank class biased around healing that does its job be better then healers that might as well be bots >.>
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90 Night Elf Death Knight
13905
02/15/2013 02:42 PMPosted by Theexploited
not sure what your talking about DK's are way OP in healing as a melee class it sickens me to be in LFR and seeing a DK in the top 4 heals.


Alienware laptops and german shepards.
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86 Human Paladin
13225
Translation.

There are things you should give. You know those others things in our talents that must not be as important as the talents I am using.

p.s. they're called Death Pact, Asphyxiate & Remorseless Winter.


translation i have 1000 hks, i have plenty of pvp experience there for i know what im talking about, your bad op, you have not even looked at the talents have you? yet you have more pvp experience than me, that doesnt matter i have more achy score than you there for my opinion is better.
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1 Human Monk
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plz go away pve nubs, clearly pve defense isn't a issue its pvp, so plz leave your comments in the wrath threads
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90 Draenei Death Knight
15410
Translation.

There are things you should give. You know those others things in our talents that must not be as important as the talents I am using.

p.s. they're called Death Pact, Asphyxiate & Remorseless Winter.


translation i have 1000 hks, i have plenty of pvp experience there for i know what im talking about, your bad op, you have not even looked at the talents have you? yet you have more pvp experience than me, that doesnt matter i have more achy score than you there for my opinion is better.


The fact that I don't pvp at all doesn't negate the fact that he purposely isn't using 3 talents that give him the the things he's asking for.
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90 Orc Death Knight
tys
9350
02/15/2013 02:42 PMPosted by Theexploited
not sure what your talking about DK's are way OP in healing as a melee class it sickens me to be in LFR and seeing a DK in the top 4 heals.


You do realize why don't you? We have weak passive mitigation. And a blood dk is not very useful in pvp. It can't kill anything.
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1 Human Monk
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translation i have 1000 hks, i have plenty of pvp experience there for i know what im talking about, your bad op, you have not even looked at the talents have you? yet you have more pvp experience than me, that doesnt matter i have more achy score than you there for my opinion is better.


The fact that I don't pvp at all doesn't negate the fact that he purposely isn't using 3 talents that give him the the things he's asking for.


This just in, dks don't use asphyxiate or remorseless winter in pvp and death pact is a 50% heal not 30 silly.
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90 Night Elf Death Knight
20555
Boneshield baseline. that is all that needs to happen.

oh and the rune taken off of strangulate.
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90 Orc Death Knight
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However it is not a healing cooldown that we need. It's an avoid almost all dmg for a short time cooldown we need.



You are an idiot. Have you never heard of AMS or AMZ?
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90 Undead Death Knight
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However it is not a healing cooldown that we need. It's an avoid almost all dmg for a short time cooldown we need.



You are an idiot. Have you never heard of AMS or AMZ?


Dude you're 2-13 in arena, you need something
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90 Orc Death Knight
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You are an idiot. Have you never heard of AMS or AMZ?


Dude you're 2-13 in arena, you need something


I don't arena, I pve. I did it a month ago with a guildie and that's all I've done since this xpac came out.
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90 Worgen Death Knight
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02/16/2013 01:23 AMPosted by Solarfläre
translation i have 1000 hks, i have plenty of pvp experience there for i know what im talking about


I laughed REALLY hard.
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