Anduin is more annoying than Thrall...

90 Blood Elf Priest
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Anduin's a prince. He's also a hunter. He's also a warrior. He's also a priest. He's going to be a paladin. Every single alliance leader likes him. Especially Velen. The Prophet, who has lived for xxxxx amount of years and is one of the greatest figures ever known. But that's not all. Mostly every other horde member likes him. Especially Bairne. And Thrall. And probably Hamuul and Vol'jin. Sylvanas, Lor'themar, and Gallywix don't like him only because they haven't met him yet.

You know who doesn't like him? Garrosh. But everyone hates Garrosh, and the guy is going to be killed in the end, so it doesn't matter. And besides, everyone just likes Anduin more because of that.

Anduin is also smart. And funny. And important. And handsome. And rich. And powerful. In fact, Anduin is basically what your wife wishes you were. And he's only 15. In any case he's so much better.

That being said, he has his problems. For example, he often has guards. Guarding him. Because, once again, he is a prince. Who is going to become a king. And lead not only the alliance and the horde, but also the dragons. But the dragons aren't enough either. He's also leading the Naaru. But enough about him leading the mythical beings of Azeroth, we're dealing with his problems. His guards. Trained. Elite. Guards. That he manages to slip away from. On multiple occassions. To do things. Like train under the pandarens. Oh by the way, he's learning meditation now. He's going to become a monk as well.

He also has two stories about him. Did you think, when you read Varian and Velen's stories, you were going to read about Varian and Velen? Lol nope. You're reading about Anduin. Did they mention Varian or Velen? Then it's just their thoughts on Anduin, and on how great he is. BTW, do you know why Varian and Velen both have 12 pages to a story each, while Bairne only has 6? It's because Anduin is in their stories. Did I say in their stories? I misspoke, it is because Anduin is their story

Anduin's demons? Growing up without parents. AKA he is basically allowed to follow the path of Batman. However, he had Bolvar. But Bolvar was turned into the Lich King. Coincidentally around the time that Anduin's real dad came back. So he always had a father figure. And not to worry, Anduin is a priest. And is going to be a paladin. And soon a monk. Which means that he'll probably purify Bolvar. And Kil'Jaden. And Sageras. He'll just purify everything. And if someone tries to kill him? Psh he's a hunter. And a warrior. And a priest. And a pally. And a monk. Who leads the most powerful mortal races, the dragons, and the Naaru. Good luck with that.

But that's not all he'll do. Anduin will be able to tank a Saurfang cleave. By himself. He'll also restore the forsaken. And the scourge. And deathwing, nefarian, onyxia... basically the whole black dragonflight. Also, once again, all while purifying Kil'jaden. And Bolvar. And Sageras. He'll also be able to see every tauren rogue in the game. Heck, he'll be able to become a tauren rogue. Why not? He's already a priest, warrior, and a hunter, and is going to become a pally and a monk. He'll also be the first bard. And warlock green fire? He already had that. You just never saw it because he doesn't cast felflame spells. But not because he can't, just because it wouldn't fit his lawful good character.

Seriously, as annoying as Thrall was, at least Thrall had some character development + some issues on where he stood with neutrality and such. The only reason people aren't screaming "Marty Stu" at Anduin is because he's not a girl so people don't naturally think of the term.
Edited by Mashedorbake on 2/19/2013 12:35 AM PST
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90 Tauren Druid
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You're trying too hard.
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90 Draenei Monk
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No, not yet. Just wait a bit and he probably will be.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Well isn't someone jaded. And wrong on multiple levels.

02/19/2013 12:53 AMPosted by Seiryu
You're trying too hard.
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90 Gnome Rogue
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How about you stick to Horde issues, and we'll stick to Alliance issues....
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Requested sticky.

/Secretly hopes Anduin dies in the most boring, non-Mary Sue way possible
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41 Gnome Priest
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He's not nearly Thrall level of annoying yet.
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90 Dwarf Paladin
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Requested sticky.

/Secretly hopes Anduin dies in the most boring, non-Mary Sue way possible


Paparazzi horse chase, followed by a fall and hitting his head on a rock?

...Too soon?
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Requested sticky.

/Secretly hopes Anduin dies in the most boring, non-Mary Sue way possible


Paparazzi horse chase, followed by a fall and hitting his head on a rock?

...Too soon?


I want him to run off to do something stupidly heroic and better left to mercenaries, only to get shanked in the spine by some Defias holdout from Westfall in tattered Pillager robes.
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Anduin is NOT a warrior, he is explicitly shown to be very poor in martial combat except with a bow because he has steady hands. Even if he does become a paladin, is it really so big of a stretch for a priest to become a paladin? And you can't use assumptions on what he MAY become to judge what he is NOW.

You know who else doesn't like Anduin? Wrathion, who makes a remark about him not being dedicated enough to world peace, seeing him as too soft.

What alliance leaders love him? Varian, check, his father. Jaina who has also been like family. An Velen. The rest he hasn't been shown to have a relationship with.

Velen's short story was about VELEN learning a lesson from Anduin. It was VELEN whose character developed, realizing he had grown too withdrawn and looking only at the big picture at the expense of doing good in the moment. Varian's short story also focused largely on their father/son relationship. Yes, anduin had development, so did Varian.

Learning meditation is not the same as becoming a monk. The entire latter half of your post is a rant about stuff you pull out of your !@# or 'may' happen. We don't know what the future holds for Anduin yet, it's not set in stone.
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I see your point, but he's not that good, a Character I like sure. but you are trying a BIT too hard. And like Florena above me, Meditation is not just for monks, Preist had a meditation Passive on Cata, Or was that Resto druids? but you get my point.
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I like Anduin. He is no where near as annoying as Green Jesus.

Horde deal with him for a few quests. QQ get over it. We had to deal with Thrall for a quest chain to save his green !@#, a heroic where we escorted his slow $%^, and then a raid where he stood and did nothing while we fought Deathwing, then at the very end he decided to use her super awesome laser toy.
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02/19/2013 12:32 AMPosted by Mashedorbake
Anduin's a prince. He's also a hunter. He's also a warrior. He's also a priest. He's going to be a paladin.


He's not a hunter or a warrior. This is why Varian was so disappointed in him. And then even more disappointed when he found out his son wanted to be a priest.

And if he does become a Paladin, it will probably be a Holy Paladin.



02/19/2013 12:32 AMPosted by Mashedorbake
Anduin is also smart. And funny. And important. And handsome. And rich. And powerful. In fact, Anduin is basically what your wife wishes you were. And he's only 15. In any case he's so much better.


I don't have a wife, but if I did I don't think she would be as infatuated with him as you are to have such a high opinion.



02/19/2013 12:32 AMPosted by Mashedorbake
He's also leading the Naaru.


....What? No one leads the Naaru.



02/19/2013 12:32 AMPosted by Mashedorbake
Oh by the way, he's learning meditation now. He's going to become a monk as well.


That's not quite how it works.



02/19/2013 12:32 AMPosted by Mashedorbake
Anduin's demons? Growing up without parents. AKA he is basically allowed to follow the path of Batman.


His Dad was missing for like what, 2 years? Not the same as growing up without parents.

And Batman's issue with his parents drives him towards being darker and emotionally troubled. Anduin is playful and well-adjusted.



02/19/2013 12:32 AMPosted by Mashedorbake
Which means that he'll probably purify Bolvar. And Kil'Jaden. And Sageras. He'll just purify everything.


Are you actually a woman? Is it your time of month? Because like, you seem to be on a rampage.





02/19/2013 12:32 AMPosted by Mashedorbake
Seriously, as annoying as Thrall was, at least Thrall had some character development + some issues on where he stood with neutrality and such. The only reason people aren't screaming "Marty Stu" at Anduin is because he's not a girl so people don't naturally think of the term.


And because he is seldom(ever?) shown to be an attacker. He's a lover more so than a fighter.

Thrall also has the advantage of age, which is why he has so much development. Anduin wasn't even going to be a very important character until Christie Golden stepped up and said she felt a lot could be done with his character.
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02/19/2013 01:52 PMPosted by Draile
He's not a hunter or a warrior. This is why Varian was so disappointed in him

He's trained in a warrior's ways. Under very good trainers. As for the hutner, he uses a bow. You show me a priest that uses a bow, and I'll show you someone hacking a game.

02/19/2013 01:52 PMPosted by Draile
....What? No one leads the Naaru.

He does. Velen predicts hiom in his short story not only leading the mortal races, but dragon, and then naaru, following him into battle.

02/19/2013 01:52 PMPosted by Draile
And Batman's issue with his parents drives him towards being darker and emotionally troubled. Anduin is playful and well-adjusted.


So why again isn't he a Marty Stu?

02/19/2013 01:52 PMPosted by Draile
Are you actually a woman? Is it your time of month? Because like, you seem to be on a rampage

immadbro.
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90 Human Mage
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So why again isn't he a Marty Stu?


Because if you don't like a character it doesn't mean a Mary Sue or Marty Stu. You are trying way too hard. Leave Anduin alone already. It's bad enough I have to deal with Thrall complainers let alone ANDUIN complainers. Give it a rest. I'd rather handle Night Elf issues then this.

~Aeluron
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He does. Velen predicts hiom in his short story not only leading the mortal races, but dragon, and then naaru, following him into battle.


It never confirmed it was Anduin. Still have hope it's not because it would makes absolutely no sense for it to be Anduin. Turalyon maybe. I'd rather it be a draenei of course, but if it has to be a human then Turalyon makes way more sense than Anduin.
Edited by Lena on 2/19/2013 2:29 PM PST
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02/19/2013 02:17 PMPosted by Mashedorbake
He's trained in a warrior's ways. Under very good trainers. As for the hutner, he uses a bow. You show me a priest that uses a bow, and I'll show you someone hacking a game.

Vol'jin uses Shaman powers in his scenario. Doesn't make him a shaman.

The classes we have in game are mostly game mechanics. Lore characters aren't bound to them.
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Paparazzi horse chase, followed by a fall and hitting his head on a rock?

...Too soon?


I want him to run off to do something stupidly heroic and better left to mercenaries, only to get shanked in the spine by some Defias holdout from Westfall in tattered Pillager robes.


no no, anduin pulls one defias melee mob then gets obliterated by 3 fireballs from 3 defias pillagers.

defias pillagers #1 OP mob in vanilla.
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02/19/2013 02:17 PMPosted by Mashedorbake
You show me a priest that uses a bow, and I'll show you someone hacking a game.


you heard it here folks, Tyrande is a hacker
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90 Goblin Warlock
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Because if you don't like a character it doesn't mean a Mary Sue or Marty Stu

You have a point, the phrase is way overused... but conversely just because you like the guy doesn't suddenly absolve him of all the terrible.

He does have a tendency to hijack stories for himself, an uncanny ability to somehow completely avoid negative consequences for anything he does, a strange power to one up people who should be many times his superior, a mystical charisma that seems to make him well respected by any of the designated good guys and despised by any of the designated bad guys, a prodigious aptitude for his chosen activities, an astounding lucky streak that seems to cause reality to bend around him into the most convenient fashion... and a likability spawned not out of any actions, but out of the writers demanding he be liked.

02/19/2013 11:40 AMPosted by Lorelaî
Horde deal with him for a few quests. QQ get over it. We had to deal with Thrall for a quest chain to save his green !@#, a heroic where we escorted his slow $%^, and then a raid where he stood and did nothing while we fought Deathwing, then at the very end he decided to use her super awesome laser toy.


At least they try to justify working with Thrall. There's no real explanation as to why the Horde goes traipsing around Krasrang with a guy you spent half a zone kidnapping and never even have the point acknowledged, much less acted upon.
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