Topic This is a nerf in a sea of buffs (Troll?)
Sangueverde
Tol Barad
Sangueverde
90 Orc Warrior
2345
So today i find this on mmo-Champion
Warrior
Reduced damage of Bloodthirst, Colossus Smash and Raging Blow by 10%.
Yes this is a nerf in a sea of buffs, but the Bloodsurge and Arms Deep Wounds changes ended up being too much of a buff.
is he trolling? sea of buffs....lol
Samayael
Cho'gall
Samayael
90 Orc Warrior
16855
They already reverted those.
Sheydrina
Eitrigg
Sheydrina
90 Pandaren Monk
5185
Was gonna say...
Adios
Kel'Thuzad
Adios
90 Human Warrior
7930
Wait, so the BT, CS, RB nerf didn't go through? TYBG
Sheydrina
Eitrigg
Sheydrina
90 Pandaren Monk
5185
Nope.

At least not for now.
Faust
Gilneas
Faust
90 Human Warrior
9710
They plan on nerfing execute later.
Samayael
Cho'gall
Samayael
90 Orc Warrior
16855
02/21/2013 03:42 PMPosted by Faust
They plan on nerfing execute later.


No, they're nerfing our meta gem instead of that. The meta gem seems like more of the issue than Execute.
Cricys
Alterac Mountains
Cricys
90 Human Warrior
6170
Edited by Cricys on 2/21/13 3:55 PM (PST)
Ugh. Beaten by cutie panda by 20 seconds.
Faust
Gilneas
Faust
90 Human Warrior
9710
02/21/2013 03:54 PMPosted by Samayael
No, they're nerfing our meta gem instead of that. The meta gem seems like more of the issue than Execute.


They said they would prefer to nerf it over execute, but nothing is certain yet. IMO SMF could use a change on execute.
Deathwìsh
Bleeding Hollow
Deathwìsh
90 Blood Elf Warrior
7745
Pretty sure by 'Sea of buffs' he meant the buffs the other classes are getting in the same build.
Mspsychokill
Illidan
Mspsychokill
90 Orc Warrior
14025
And they did in fact nerf execute damage but reduced the cd.
Drevi
Ragnaros
Drevi
90 Dwarf Warrior
10250
02/22/2013 03:05 AMPosted by Mspsychokill
And they did in fact nerf execute damage but reduced the cd.


No, they didn't (or at least they didn't say anything about it after the "nerf the meta instead" post). And it doesn't have a cd.
Voagrius
Kel'Thuzad
Voagrius
90 Worgen Warrior
8985
I really question whether Blizz even knows what they're doing at this point, I'm starting to think some guy is just throwing darts at a board full of warrior abilities while blindfolded in order to decide what to nerf next.
Curoar
Kargath
Curoar
90 Pandaren Warrior
13075
02/21/2013 03:01 PMPosted by Sangueverde
is he trolling? sea of buffs....lol


Actually Warriors for the most part have seen several buffs and changes this PTR. Here's a list of all the buffs that are still in play, despite the nerf being reverted.

  • All Warriors benefiting from 50% More haste from passive stats and consumables.
  • Base Damage increase on Shield Slam (Scaling nerfed a bit)
  • Base Damage increase on Revenge (Scaling nerfed a bit)
  • Bloodsurge now causes wildstrike to have a rage cost of 0.
  • Deep Wounds now deals 100% More damage for Arms.
  • Sudden Death now procs off of Strikes of Opportunity
  • Slam damage increased by 30%
  • Taste for Blood Reworked for Arms
  • Bladestorm now makes the warrior immune to disarm
  • Stormbolt now deals 125% Weapon Damage (Up from 100%)
  • Enraged Regeneration now Costs 30 rage, down from 60.
  • Impending Victory will now heal the Warrior for 15% of maximum health when they have not slain an enemy (was 10%)
  • Whirlwind now costs 20 rage (was 30) for Arms Warriors. The cost is unchanged for Fury Warriors.
  • The only nerfs we're sustaining are ones to Shockwave's Duration if you miss multiple targets, Defensive Stance being nerfed by 10% for Arms and Fury, and gaining less rage on Second Wind when stunned.

    If that's not a sea of buffs, I don't know what is.
    Sangueverde
    Tol Barad
    Sangueverde
    90 Orc Warrior
    2345
    02/22/2013 09:38 AMPosted by Curoar
    is he trolling? sea of buffs....lol


    Actually Warriors for the most part have seen several buffs and changes this PTR. Here's a list of all the buffs that are still in play, despite the nerf being reverted.

  • All Warriors benefiting from 50% More haste from passive stats and consumables.
  • Base Damage increase on Shield Slam (Scaling nerfed a bit)
  • Base Damage increase on Revenge (Scaling nerfed a bit)
  • Bloodsurge now causes wildstrike to have a rage cost of 0.
  • Deep Wounds now deals 100% More damage for Arms.
  • Sudden Death now procs off of Strikes of Opportunity
  • Slam damage increased by 30%
  • Taste for Blood Reworked for Arms
  • Bladestorm now makes the warrior immune to disarm
  • Stormbolt now deals 125% Weapon Damage (Up from 100%)
  • Enraged Regeneration now Costs 30 rage, down from 60.
  • Impending Victory will now heal the Warrior for 15% of maximum health when they have not slain an enemy (was 10%)
  • Whirlwind now costs 20 rage (was 30) for Arms Warriors. The cost is unchanged for Fury Warriors.
  • The only nerfs we're sustaining are ones to Shockwave's Duration if you miss multiple targets, Defensive Stance being nerfed by 10% for Arms and Fury, and gaining less rage on Second Wind when stunned.

    If that's not a sea of buffs, I don't know what is.


    TFB remake is not a buff is a nerf we lost the damage from Heroic Strike and the slow out of global and making the glyph useless, besides the 10 cost on overpower (gamebreaking) the new TFB is complet nerf on warriors that for me hited realy hard...the slam buff it is just to full the gap of dps left from HS. Plus the shockwave nerf hard one too.
    So in 5.2 we lost a realy good glyph a slow out of global cd and not even gonna say about survival from defensive stance and second winds nerfs...the rage on overpower so we can never use anything besides overpower + slam + mortal Strike and colossus.
    All this skill will be hard to used or never used on 5.2 ( PvP Wise Arms POV) - Cleave, Heroic Strike, Shattering Throw, Thunder Clap, Sweeping Strikes, Thunder Clap.
    So we got destroyed in all warriors good aspects and received small buffs the only good one being deep wounds damage.
    Narcaine
    Korgath
    Narcaine
    90 Human Warrior
    9760
    Please don't nerf execute. 5 mil execute crits are intoxicating. And now with gear scaling I stay at the # 1 spot even until execute when I soar miles above # 2
    Sgtjonson
    Shadowmoon
    Sgtjonson
    90 Human Warrior
    7995
    02/21/2013 03:01 PMPosted by Sangueverde
    is he trolling? sea of buffs....lol

    Really, people?

    He's referring to other class getting damage buffs while warriors were the only class to get a damage nerf.
    Narcaine
    Korgath
    Narcaine
    90 Human Warrior
    9760
    02/22/2013 10:39 AMPosted by Sgtjonson
    is he trolling? sea of buffs....lol

    Really, people?

    He's referring to other class getting damage buffs while warriors were the only class to get a damage nerf.


    Mages got nerfed hard
    Sangueverde
    Tol Barad
    Sangueverde
    90 Orc Warrior
    2345
    02/22/2013 11:07 AMPosted by Narcaine

    Really, people?

    He's referring to other class getting damage buffs while warriors were the only class to get a damage nerf.


    Mages got nerfed hard


    no they dont they gof buffed lol
    Mspsychokill
    Illidan
    Mspsychokill
    90 Orc Warrior
    14025
    Edited by Mspsychokill on 2/22/13 12:08 PM (PST)
    And they did in fact nerf execute damage but reduced the cd.


    No, they didn't (or at least they didn't say anything about it after the "nerf the meta instead" post). And it doesn't have a cd.


    Warrior
    - We are going to lower Recklessness to 3 min cooldown, 30% crit. We will have to adjust the Glyph of Recklessness and T14 4pc (and probably other mechanics I forgot) to keep them at the same relative power.


    Followed by:


    - Execute damage -25%.

    EDIT: Added the actual chances above. As always, you don't need to understand ANY of that to benefit from the trinkets.

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