02/26/2013 02:24 AM These metrics don't give you solutions. All they do is indicate whether a problem may or may not exist. So in that sense they aren't as valuable as other information, such as spell selection and cool-down management. I think this is why so many people are rolling into your thread and spouting, "Over-healing doesn't matter."
Posted by Volios
There really is no justification for any seasoned healer to ever state "over-healing doesn't matter" when talking about efficiency.
I cannot be held liable for others lack of ability to read. In my first post, the situation described suggested that we already know there is a spell selection issue.
Its not about strictly going to an OH stat and cramming down a new healers throat, saying "look! this is what you're doing wrong!" and giving them little or no explanation as to what it is they are doing wrong.
I'm fully aware that there are other avenues of figuring out what is going wrong, that will give you answers faster than just trying to look at an OH stat and trying to figure it out. I never disagreed with anyone here. This post has been blown so far out of proportion, because people are coming in here, seeing "OH" and then spouting off about how much it doesnt matter, at this portion of the game.
The point I was trying to make, was that it just simply isn't being discussed, as precautionary measures, when giving a healer who seems to be struggling at said point in game, tips that may point them in the right direction. If you're going OOM, you're not being an efficient healer, regardless of the cause, no matter what.
You are just grasping for straws at this point.
You said I was only speaking on one scenario. I just gave you 3.
1. Doing 0 overhealing doesn't = best healer; doing a lot of overhealing doesn't = bad healer -- your latest posts imply the latter.
No. It doesnt. Not even close. What I implied, is that in my opinion, my definition of a good healer, is one who is aware of his/her efficiency. If I'm overhealing and have tons of mana left, Wouldn't I maybe, want to take some of my spirit, and move it over to INT for more throughput?
2. Selection of spells most definitely does imply whether you decide to cast or not cast certain spells. Who cares what reason you have for if you do or if you don't. But knowing what spells to use during certain parts of a fight and pre-planning with your co-healers will save a lot of mana and time.
I disagree. Spell selection, literally, means selection of spells....or a healer's "rotation" if you will. There is no "no heal" spell. I think there are better ways to describe situations like this, other than just associating an overzealous healer casting heals at erroneous times, with "spell selection", but I don't want to go down any more rabbit trails than we have to.
3. These "overzealous" healers that are "trying to do more output than they can" should be removed from the raid. They're being a hindrance, if that's all they can manage. A real healer doesn't look at it from a DPS standpoint of: "How much can I do?" (However, it does happen when you decide to make it like you 1heal or let your other healer do nothing so you can rank)
Well, if they are purposely being belligerent, yes. Kick. This thread was about helping healers, not kicking them, so lets just assume the healers we are talking about, have half a brain, and are really trying to work out problems, regardless of how bad they are.