5.2 PTR CM nerf reverted; Pyro nerfed 10%

100 Blood Elf Mage
18255
The CM nerf on the PTR (from 1.3 to 1.2) has been reverted. They still apparently think Fire will end up a little bit too good, because instead of the nerf to CM, they are nerfing Pyro a bit:

- Critical Mass - nerf reverted. It's back to 30%.
- Pyroblast - direct damage reduced 10%.


Regarding reasoning, they listened to those of us saying the CM nerf punishes those without very high end gear, and it looks like they might actually attempt to fix this long term, instead of simply forcing fire mages to constantly ride the "get good gear / get nerfed" merry-go-round:

The Fire changes were because we needed to nerf Fire to keep other mage specs competitive in PvE in 5.2, but we agree that nerfing Critical Mass unfairly targets less well geared players, and that the spec is just less fun if it crits too rarely. (Long term, we might investigate some of the non-linear percent scaling suggestions players have made.)


Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7923993861?page=100#2000
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90 Gnome Mage
15265
I'm really happy right now. Nerfing CM sucks. A flat damage reduction to Pyro is so much better.
Edited by Napwneon on 2/28/2013 7:25 PM PST
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100 Human Mage
18205
02/28/2013 07:24 PMPosted by Napwneon
I'm really happy right now. Nerfing CM sucks. A flat damage reduction to Pyro is so much better.


Same, and I agree.

Nerf Mage tears, too stronk.

Nice to see they're actually listening.
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100 Blood Elf Mage
18255
02/28/2013 07:24 PMPosted by Napwneon
I'm really happy right now. Nerfing CM sucks. A flat damage reduction to Pyro is so much better.


I agree.

I'm honestly still not convinced anything needed to happen to fire. At least not yet. But if they are going to nerf, this is *so* much better.
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90 Draenei Mage
10355
This is phenomenal. Definitely allows those of who aren't pushing heroic content to have a more viable option for a while. I love it.
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100 Human Mage
17475
Very happy with this change. I am a fire mage who just got this toon to crit levels where it is starting to be fluid, was seriously considering moving to my Ret with the CM nerf to 1.2. Hopefully they do the other bit ASAP and change CM to be non-linear.
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100 Human Mage
15015
Glad to hear. It's a problem that needs to be fixed long term in my opinion, but I'll take a 10% nerf to pyro as long as they recognize that this is a problem. :)
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90 Worgen Mage
12575
Well done, seems they are paying attention.
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90 Undead Mage
Ark
12425
The CM nerf on the PTR (from 1.3 to 1.2) has been reverted. They still apparently think Fire will end up a little bit too good, because instead of the nerf to CM, they are nerfing Pyro a bit:

- Critical Mass - nerf reverted. It's back to 30%.
- Pyroblast - direct damage reduced 10%.


Regarding reasoning, they listened to those of us saying the CM nerf punishes those without very high end gear, and it looks like they might actually attempt to fix this long term, instead of simply forcing fire mages to constantly ride the "get good gear / get nerfed" merry-go-round:

[quote]The Fire changes were because we needed to nerf Fire to keep other mage specs competitive in PvE in 5.2, but we agree that nerfing Critical Mass unfairly targets less well geared players, and that the spec is just less fun if it crits too rarely. (Long term, we might investigate some of the non-linear percent scaling suggestions players have made.)


Definately good seeing as this change is keeping fire viable for raids and toning down fire damage in pvp

Thumbs up for blizz on this one
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100 Gnome Mage
18295
I would have to agree and looking into non-linear ways to manage fire crit is good
long term strategy. Nerfing the proc damage of pyro is manageable.

Good Job and thanks for listening to us even if we when we get somewhat hysterical at times :D
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90 Draenei Mage
16695
Everyone wins with this. Baby Mages up to the BIS mages this is an all around good choice.
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90 Blood Elf Mage
11000
You can't nerf Critical Mass! Burn Blizzard HQ to the ground! Salt the earth! Ghostcrawler is the devil's son!

Oh a nerf was reverted and a more sensible one applied within 24 hours of the announcement of said unpleasant nerf? Boy is my face red.
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100 Worgen Mage
19550
Thanks Blizzard. Nerfing Pyro is the right approach IMO. Still wish we had LB cleave back though =p
Edited by Digerati on 2/28/2013 9:31 PM PST
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90 Worgen Mage
12575
You can't nerf Critical Mass! Burn Blizzard HQ to the ground! Salt the earth! Ghostcrawler is the devil's son!

Oh a nerf was reverted and a more sensible one applied within 24 hours of the announcement of said unpleasant nerf? Boy is my face red.


How so? It was reverted due to the amount of complaining about it, no complaints and it would have continued to live. Not sure whats difficult to get, if no one speaks out against anything then the people in charge would always assume everything is A OK.
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100 Worgen Mage
19550
Best part about that comment was it mentioned the aspect of 'fun'. Really isn't fun to be spamming Fireball. Critting is!
Edited by Digerati on 2/28/2013 9:37 PM PST
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Yesssssssssssss! So happy about this change. I'm just starting to gear up my mage and am starting to get some crit gear. My question is, how much crit is needed to be competitive? 25% unbuffed? CM being reverted back to 30%... Where is the 30% number coming from?
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90 Goblin Mage
14870
Everyone is all "ahh good choice, great job, they're listening" meanwhile come 2 hours after 5.2 release Hotfix: CM reduced to 1.1, pyroblast damage and scaleing reduced by 50%
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100 Troll Mage
17020
Coolio.
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90 Worgen Mage
12575
02/28/2013 09:40 PMPosted by Ærtai
Everyone is all "ahh good choice, great job, they're listening" meanwhile come 2 hours after 5.2 release Hotfix: CM reduced to 1.1, pyroblast damage and scaleing reduced by 50%


The horror.
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