02/25/2013 07:19 AMI don't think you've learned how to use all of your healing spells and cooldowns properly. Keep practicing.
Posted by Tiesha
I haven't been on the PTR yet, but judging by your comments I don't think you have either, let alone all of the MSV heroics/some HoF heroics as Disc. What gives you any right to be an !@# to a individual that is trying to be helpful with his current experience on the PTR. I'm not on the PTR, doesnt seem like you are, He was, and is just letting us know what he thought.
Now,im not saying your incorrect, as just blanketing the raid with only DA is not good gameplay and is a inefficient way to heal, but still, don't call someone out and make him feel bad for "not know how to play". Maybe he just sarted playing a priest and noticed that Blizzard gave us this silly spell that offered so much bang for his buck so he would just cast that all the live long day..Maybe that's all he knows, who knows, who cares. Just offer some insightful feedback.
I don't give 2 $%^-es how disc priest do in normal modes, or 10m. It comes down to 25m, and heroic at that. The current new model for disc priests have us severely lacking behind in terms of throughput and ability to save someone from the brink of death. In consistent AoE damage situations, which is pretty much every fight in the 5.2 raid, we can't quite compete on the same level as the other healers (Which Is ridiculous,as Blizzards new healing model was apparently that every healer should be able to perform each role efficiently, ie Tank and raid healing). This is simply not the case. Again, think about heroics, where the damage going out is going to be too much for our small little heals to handle. And "having to go holy" shouldn't have to be an option.
For god sakes, I have seen logs from the 5.2 Normal 25m raids for Holy pallies, and their Illuminated Healing is off the charts. They do more absorption than Spirit shell and Divine aegis. It's completely bonkers, absorption should be our bread and butter.
We have no effective AoE anymore with the change to crits (Dont even start with the mastery increasing non-crits by a little bit, cause frankly its minuscule, and negligible at that.). Try healing up 5 people using a archaic group-targeting heal that does like 34k healing non-crit on people with 450+k health pools. Your trying to fill an ocean up with a garden hose. Of course you have other healers filling that ocean up too, but at least there filling it with a oversized watermain pipe, and making a difference...Rather,lets use offensive penance+instant HF/solace! Probably net you more healing that a average PoH now, wait not probably...will!! AoE via-vi single targeting, and heals that you aren't even controlling! How fun!
While Perthemedic may not be doing things properly to maximize his results, I would further like to know if this was in LFR? Or a normal group? 10m? 25m?
Also, since I have not personally been on the PTR, just pouring through logs/watching live streams/talking to people in blood legion/Midwinter I would really like to know what legitimate players
have to say about these changes. Such as Ceddya, he seems to know what's up.
... (Holy Paladins are another story, IH is just amazing). The only concern I have is how we'll scale into HMs with higher damage, as most of our throughput comes from absorbs with intrinsically low overhealing. Still, I was more than able to sustain rather substantial usage of PW:S, and it looks like the only time that PoH is worth casting over PW:S is if the PoH will heal at least 4 people with minimal overhealing.
At least i'm not the only one concerned. But you have the mentality of "just going holy" for those high throughput fights. I frankly don't think that should be necessary, or required. I should be able to be right on that holy guys heels as disc, maybe not beat him, but definetly steppin' on the backs of his heels, and have the tools in order to do that.
While I have not the time to get on the PTR to participate with my guild/guild isn't on the PTR this round, I would encourage everyone who has(esp heroic level guilds) to please post your thoughts and concerns about the changes here, the good the bad and the ugly, and please lets not just roll on our backs and accept it while we have our spec completely changed mid-stream.
- Concerned priest