Ret: What T3 talent will you take Tuesday?

90 Human Paladin
12275
I'm torn between Selfless Healer and Eternal Flame. Not a big S.Shield fan but it also looks good!

Since both Selfless Healer and Eternal Flame got huge upgrades, I can't quite decide which to take. I do a lot of solo content, small group, LFR, and occasional BGs. I"m leaning towards SH. Thoughts?
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90 Human Paladin
7825
I thought that Selfless Healer was nerfed...

EDIT: Selfless healer WAS nerfed. Sacrad Shield too. It's Blizzard's old way: nerf popular talents to the ground to encourage the use of the others.
Edited by Demithelon on 3/4/2013 4:19 AM PST
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90 Human Paladin
9970
Selfless Healer's buff to ally-healing was reduced, but this is more than counterbalanced by the Sword of Light FoL buff. SH FoLs will be stronger in 5.2 than they are now, both for self-healing and on allies.

I'm probably gonna stick with Selfless Healer most of the time still, personally.
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90 Human Paladin
12275
I thought that Selfless Healer was nerfed...
EDIT: Selfless healer WAS nerfed. Sacrad Shield too. It's Blizzard's old way: nerf popular talents to the ground to encourage the use of the others.

Selfless healer was buffed for RET only:

Selfless Healer now boosts Flash of Light by 20/40/60% (was 33/66/100%).

BUT
Sword of Light now increases Flash of Light by 100% (was 30%).
Edited by Greengoo on 3/4/2013 4:44 AM PST
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90 Human Paladin
7825
Oh yes, I hadn't seen the SH that way, thanks. =)
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90 Human Paladin
12800
I thought that Selfless Healer was nerfed...

EDIT: Selfless healer WAS nerfed. Sacrad Shield too. It's Blizzard's old way: nerf popular talents to the ground to encourage the use of the others.


Did you care to scroll down a bit and see the huge buff to flash of light from SoL?
Edited by Solvexx on 3/4/2013 5:56 AM PST
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90 Human Paladin
8670
As a tank, I'm still going to use Sacred Shield. With Vengeance, it's a free 50-60k absorb every 4.8 seconds with my Haste. Delicious.

-- Edit --

Oh, wait. I didn't see this was for Ret. Silly me.
Edited by Emberstone on 3/4/2013 1:34 PM PST
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
14075
Still selfless healer for me

In PVP the periodic nature of eternal flame just doesn't line up with reality
Combine that with an option that is holy power neutral yet allows for burst healing, I just don't think there's a lot of contest

As for pve it allows for off healing with a minuscule sacrifice of damage. I have saved many a boss attempt with it
Edited by Iliriel on 3/4/2013 10:37 AM PST
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100 Human Paladin
13500
Selfless Healer is amazing it's by far the most versatile of the 3 talents for Ret. Unless there's another fight like Bladelord or Garalon with constant raid wide damage that I need to mitigate to survive I see no reason why I should switch out of Selfless Healer.
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90 Human Paladin
10590
Stickin with Selfless Healer, i do well with it and the buff to SoL should substitute the nerf to SH.

Not that I'm a pro or anything
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
5825
I too will be sticking with SH. In addition to being great support for your team, those instant cast FoLs are nice.
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90 Human Paladin
2855
I'd stick with SH too. Extremely helpful in my opinion especially when it crits
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
15060
If you ever do significant raiding, there's a lot to be said for keeping an extra Sacred Shield on the tank; my raid runs with six Paladins (a Prot, two Holy, three Ret) and it made healing through Heroic Gara'jal tremendously easier while we were learning it.

If you're more into PvP, you take Selfless Healer and don't look back.
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