Monk Review is Wrong MW

90 Pandaren Monk
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"quote from Blizz post bout monks"

Early on, we said that Mistweavers would have the option to be melee healers, dealing damage and healing their allies at the same time. We haven’t quite delivered on that, but in patch 5.2 we’re making an effort to allow “fist-weaving” to be a more viable play style. The actual healing provided by Fistweaving was okay, but Fistweaving damage was so low that it wasn’t worth it for Mistweavers to move to melee to try it out. With the 5.2 buffs, it should be. These changes prompted a few others to make sure that casting heals like a traditional healer and causing melee damage to heal were separate rotations, without allowing Monks to cherry pick the best moves from each, which caused balance problems in testing. The goal is for Fistweaving to be similar to Atonement healing for Discipline Priests. The Monk will sacrifice some DPS and healing compared to a dedicated healer or damage dealer, but it will be possible to contribute a good amount of each, which is sometimes quite valuable.

^quote from the new blizz post bout monks^

THE GOOD MONKS ONLY FIST WEAVED PRE 5.1 AND WE OWNED

This proves that blizz has no idea whats going on in the monk world. Emeinece was nerfed so hard that we will never be able to heal with it agian and from what I've seen if we do fist weave our healing numbers drop we are about 60/40 on Hps/Dps if you look at the logs. but there r many fights where its not even possible. from what I've seen if we cant chi torpedo when its needed as a fist weaver we r useless as a healer "ground effect useually cause us not to use chi torpedo like it needs to be used" and our Mist Weaving is sub par at best.

this is not to say that a class doing 60/40 Hps/Dps is not good I like the idea. It allows a very versatile class one that can add to a raid group in many ways our Dps is high enough To where it actualy means something to a raid but our Healing is still to low "Especially when we can't Chi torpedo at will"

Buffing our fistweaving WILL NOT MESS WITH PVP
Edited by Kairoos on 3/8/2013 2:17 PM PST
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90 Pandaren Monk
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The nerf to eminence is offset by the buff to other abilities. Jab Jab uplift was stupidly overpowered and isn't a design intention, which was why it got nerfed.

Your new rotation for FW is basically Jab TP jab TP jab TP and use your BOK only if there are multiple mobs. You generate a bit more chi that gets used on chi cost heals whenever needed, spam either wave or burst on cooldown whichever you prefer, and whatever comes up that's free.

No more jab jab uplift, no more spamming blackout kick.
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90 Pandaren Monk
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If you're playing the spec the way it's designed, Fistweaving healing is up from 5.1.

Tiger Palm got a 100% increase, plus 150% through Muscle Memory.

Even though Eminence was cut in half, this still ends up being over double the damage of 5.1, meaning that the damage offsets the nerf, and then some.

Theoretically, not counting statue:

Tiger Palm did 20k on live. 20k x .5 = 10k healing.
Tiger Palm now does 50k (20k * 2.50 (+100% Teaching of the Monastery, +150% Muscle Memory)) x .25 = 12.5k healing.

This isn't even counting Blackout Kick being a cleave now and the insane damage and healing that does on aoe packs.
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90 Pandaren Monk
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The nerf to eminence is offset by the buff to other abilities. Jab Jab uplift was stupidly overpowered and isn't a design intention, which was why it got nerfed.

Your new rotation for FW is basically Jab TP jab TP jab TP and use your BOK only if there are multiple mobs. You generate a bit more chi that gets used on chi cost heals whenever needed, spam either wave or burst on cooldown whichever you prefer, and whatever comes up that's free.

No more jab jab uplift, no more spamming blackout kick.


I understand that the way it was before was not working but we are still not doing enough healing to be usefull "except on first two bosses" on other bosses the healing output isnt good enough also if you look at most logs the monks that are fistweaving are doing alot of chi torpedos witch is not viable on ground effect fights "Tortose" yes you can use chi torpedo but not at times when its actually needed

also the new FW rotation feels boring and clunky
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90 Pandaren Monk
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i have also noticed that a lot of the people that comment on the topic

A) have not even killed first boss "some have but not many" this counts for second boss as well witch has same dmg increase buff just a little bit harder on first phase

B) are not mistweavers and are commenting without even trying it
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