Is simulationcraft broken for mages?

1 Human Rogue
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It looks like they should be 1-2 right now

http://www.simulationcraft.org/520/Raid_T15H.html
http://www.simulationcraft.org/520/Raid_T14H.html
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90 Human Mage
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Last I knew (5.0 release), all Mage specs were simming 10-20% too high, and we hadn't found the reason. I haven't had the time to work on it since.
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90 Gnome Mage
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Mages scale insanely with gear. Even if they start at the bottom, they will reach the top by the end of the tier lol.


And how do we get this gear, if we aren't raiding because we are no longer bringing anything worth bring to a raid ?
Edited by Schwarzkopf on 3/8/2013 7:37 PM PST
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83 Dwarf Shaman
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Don't care about the end of the tier. The first couple of weeks of a tier are by far the most important when it comes to progression. Why should we be getting any gear over a lock/spriest when they bring more dps/utility?
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90 Troll Hunter
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03/08/2013 07:37 PMPosted by Schwarzkopf
Mages scale insanely with gear. Even if they start at the bottom, they will reach the top by the end of the tier lol.


And how do we get this gear, if we aren't raiding because we are no longer bringing anything worth bring to a raid ?

My 25m guild raids with 3-4 mages on every pull, if yours isn't willing to take mages that's because you have a bad raid leader.
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90 Worgen Warlock
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My 25m guild raids with 3-4 mages on every pull, if yours isn't willing to take mages that's because you have a bad raid leader.


2-3 but same thing, good mages are fine.
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90 Gnome Mage
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My 25m guild raids with 3-4 mages on every pull, if yours isn't willing to take mages that's because you have a bad raid leader.


10m raid team here, we can't afford to have people carried like in 25m.
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90 Human Mage
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The mage in my guild was doind 100-160k depending on the fight in ToT as Fire/Frost. We are up to megeara now. His ilvl was only 505 before the end of tonights raid.

I can safely say its a L2P issue for all the crying mages.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/sargeras/Turfology/advanced

Yes, I'm sure your sample size of exactly 1 mage faithfully represents the entire mage class.

As an example, I've also seen a video of a man bench pressing over 1000 lbs. Therefore all humans bench press 1000 lbs. Wait a second. . . .
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90 Human Mage
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The mage in my guild was doind 100-160k depending on the fight in ToT as Fire/Frost. We are up to megeara now. His ilvl was only 505 before the end of tonights raid.

I can safely say its a L2P issue for all the crying mages.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/sargeras/Turfology/advanced

Yes, I'm sure your sample size of exactly 1 mage faithfully represents the entire mage class.


Given an actual parse, we could pick it apart and figure out if it was an outlier or not.
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90 Gnome Mage
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Given an actual parse, we could pick it apart and figure out if it was an outlier or not.


Here is an actual Arcane mage doing pretty much top for his spec:

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-3jt9isuyu07twtj4/details/1/?s=1192&e=1382

Look at his Arcane Missiles proc rate .... is that close to 50% of casts or something ?

I think you will find that Arcane mages at least, for a given gear level will strongly depend on that proc rate.
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90 Troll Hunter
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My 25m guild raids with 3-4 mages on every pull, if yours isn't willing to take mages that's because you have a bad raid leader.


10m raid team here, we can't afford to have people carried like in 25m.

10m guilds are raiding with mages too.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/illidan/Coachmcguirk/advanced

This guild is currently US 2 and finished last tier at US 5, and they take a mage (full disclosure: it's also their GM). If one of the best 10 man guilds in the country can run a mage, yours can too. Stop whining.
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