The "Alliance" is vague

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Those who survived Southshore and became worgen would be the only ones considered "true" Lordaeron citizens under this logic and even they have undergone a drastic change in body and mind (worgen is not simply a bad hair day) and cannot be said to be the same people they were when they lived there assuming the Forsaken cannot either.


Worgen minds are the same provided they undergo the Tal'Doren ritual, which also fixes their souls. Can't say the same for the Forsaken.


Not exactly. When you go back through Wolfheart/Cata/MoP, it's clear that even after the ritual, that they are changed in mind as well. They are just now balanced between man and beast, they are not entirely human in their mind.

Worgen prefer to be in the woods. Worgen have serious issues with being in cities. Malfurion noticed how uncomfortable they were inside Darnassus, but as soon as they left he could see that they were much more at ease. And we see it in all of the major cities with the worgen not populating it in any major numbers, one or two and they prefer to be outside of the city walls. We saw it in Wolfheart where the worgen spent the majority of their time in the woods, and only were human when they had to be. The worgen in the BL followed the druid there because he was going to build a forest there and the worgen were in Felwood because they view the woods as sacred to their kind. What human prior to the curse, thought of the woods of Felwood as sacred?

There is a reason why people call worgen "furry night elves". They have more in common with the night elves then they do with the humans in Stormwind and even the humans in Gilneas.

Worgen have the inate need to run and hunt in the woods. Like Genn told Varian, humans hunt, but worgen HUNT. Alpha Prime also noted that it's sheer torture for a worgen not to be able to run and hunt in the woods. If they are unable to do it, it makes them insane.

Goldrinn is now something to be worshiped and the worgen flock to him. While some non-worgen also look to getting his blessing as a warrior, you don't see it on the same level as the worgen since he is their patron deity.

Personalities have changed, go look at the worgen in Felwood and Ivar Bloodfang and see how savage they act towards the Horde, compared to what the humans do to the Horde. They have to keep their anger in check, lest it overwelms them and causes them to attack their friends. They have their worgen side and their human side of their personalities.

Should also note that worgen see themselves as worgen and not human. They, may look human at times, but prefer their worgen form and no longer consider themselves part of humanity, but as a worgen.

Also, they follow the alpha and place a high importance on being a member of the pack. A pack follows their alpha. We see this with the interaction between Ivar and Darius and bringing their two packs together. We even see female worgen being called "Denmothers". So not only do we see a shift in their personalities, but also a shift in their society and culture.

Put it simply: Worgen are not humans with a skin condition.
Edited by Fuliculi on 3/20/2013 3:46 PM PDT
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Worgen minds are the same provided they undergo the Tal'Doren ritual, which also fixes their souls. Can't say the same for the Forsaken.


Not exactly. When you go back through Wolfheart/Cata/MoP, it's clear that even after the ritual, that they are changed in mind as well. They are just now balanced between man and beast, they are not entirely human in their mind.

Worgen prefer to be in the woods. Worgen have serious issues with being in cities. Malfurion noticed how uncomfortable they were inside Darnassus, but as soon as they left he could see that they were much more at ease. And we see it in all of the major cities with the worgen not populating it in any major numbers, one or two and they prefer to be outside of the city walls. We saw it in Wolfheart where the worgen spent the majority of their time in the woods, and only were human when they had to be. The worgen in the BL followed the druid there because he was going to build a forest there and the worgen were in Felwood because they view the woods as sacred to their kind. What human prior to the curse, thought of the woods of Felwood as sacred?

There is a reason why people call worgen "furry night elves". They have more in common with the night elves then they do with the humans in Stormwind and even the humans in Gilneas.

Worgen have the inate need to run and hunt in the woods. Like Genn told Varian, humans hunt, but worgen HUNT. Alpha Prime also noted that it's sheer torture for a worgen not to be able to run and hunt in the woods. If they are unable to do it, it makes them insane.

Goldrinn is now something to be worshiped and the worgen flock to him. While some non-worgen also look to getting his blessing as a warrior, you don't see it on the same level as the worgen since he is their patron deity.

Personalities have changed, go look at the worgen in Felwood and Ivar Bloodfang and see how savage they act towards the Horde, compared to what the humans do to the Horde. They have to keep their anger in check, lest it overwelms them and causes them to attack their friends. They have their worgen side and their human side of their personalities.

Should also note that worgen see themselves as worgen and not human. They, may look human at times, but prefer their worgen form and no longer consider themselves part of humanity, but as a worgen.

Also, they follow the alpha and place a high importance on being a member of the pack. A pack follows their alpha. We see this with the interaction between Ivar and Darius and bringing their two packs together. We even see female worgen being called "Denmothers". So not only do we see a shift in their personalities, but also a shift in their society and culture.

Put it simply: Worgen are not humans with a skin condition.


This is brilliant thank you for the imput. I believe this pokes a few holes in our friend's end all theory.
Edited by Rokfon on 3/21/2013 4:36 PM PDT
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