Why play an Ele shaman?

This brings an interesting question to mind. Why would somebody play a shaman if clearly other classes can do what they do but better (in all seriousness)?
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Many other classes can do what Ele shamans do but better, lately it feels like im being forced to go resto if I want to play a shaman.
Ill use a mage for example:
-A mage can obviously outburst an Ele
-Obviously more survivability
-More CC
-More utility to bring to the fight

...so why be an ele shaman
If I was an Rbg leader I wouldn't bring one when i could just bring a class 4x better.
Edited by Aveance on 3/20/2013 1:38 PM PDT
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90 Tauren Paladin
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for PvE?

Spell-haste
Bloodlust
Astral Shift + Shamanistic Rage
Chain Lightning
Good burst
Decent mobility
Off-healing
Hex
Gearing ( Mail int )

Even as far as single target damage is concerned, I wouldn't consider that a reason not to bring one to a raid.

Mages bring less to a raid than an Ele does, mages are generally brought for their pure dps output. Many raid groups look for utility, and dps shamans have a solid spot in raid groups right now.
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90 Orc Warlock
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My shaman is 89 not 90 so my points could be invalid. However, even if mages or other classes can burst more or have an easier time kiting or cc'ing.. The challenge is fun. I love the shaman class, I want to make it work. I take joy in only seeing maybe 1 other elemental shaman in a bg. If I were a Mage with 8 other mages in a bg I wouldn't feel special. Ascendence is easy to CC yes, but if they fail to.. You blow people up like no other. Seeing 9 lava bursts fly across the screen into your enemy is very exciting to me. Idk I guess It feels unique and fun. Plus, who can miss out on LM thunderstorm in arathi basin, or eye of the storm mid. Blowing 3 enemies off the cliff to their deaths is too exciting. You can basically insta kill someone no matter how geared or OP their class is lol. Just my thoughts! :)
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90 Goblin Shaman
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Sith Lightning
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94 Pandaren Shaman
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Bad raid leaders won't take an elemental.

Whats worse...Shaman that play the class who suck at it so therefore other classes are better.

tell me this...why not take 6 mages on your raid...instead of a mix? I'll tell ya why. IT WOULD BE STUPID.

Healer goes out of mana...can the mage heal the raid for a bit to give him a break? Didn't think so.

Tell you what when you are raiding with a HIGH end raiding guild...come talk to me about raid comps...until then stop crying.
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@ wicked: You may find the challenge fun now, and all the abilitys, but after a wile, it gets a bit boring not being able to do Rbgs because they found a hunter instead. Or taking my hands off the keyboard when being attacked by a rogue. Plus mages can do more burst than ascendance, harder to CC and lower CD.
Edited by Aveance on 3/20/2013 1:34 PM PDT
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@Salammar: If you haven't caught on by now, we're talking about Pvp, lol
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100 Troll Shaman
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@Salammar: If you haven't caught on by now, we're talking about Pvp, lol

If I was a raid leader I wouldn't bring one when i could just bring a class 4x better.

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Elemental brings much more raid utility than a mage, and is currently putting out comparable DPS.
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@Auqo: shhhh I made a typo! I meant Rbg.. I just had raiding on my mind
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100 Draenei Shaman
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Really what Carbuncle said but to add

Elemental Shaman are actually superior to Mage in many ways. Mage DPS has been nerfed to be more in line with us also we have some very sick cooldowns.

For example, try stormlash totem + ascendance + FE totem, lava "chain" (forget exact name) + earthquake - DPS is extremely huge. Even with 471 ilvl I could do 120k dps in bursts. Mage AoE is decent but multidotting is tedious. We just hit CL like nuts and enjoy.

Our mobility puts Mage to shame. With LB, shocks and instant LvB we can do almost our entire output on the move. Don't forget you have spiritwalkers grace so you can cast anything on the move. I play a 90 mage and its a game of when and how can you move. They even took away scorch from frost and arcane. We just move around laughing at Mages.

We have more buffs than Mages I am pretty sure. Because of Blizzard's "quality of life" portals have become a quaint thing more, nobody really needs or uses them.

Honestly, I see more potential of getting a raid spot as a Ele b/c of less Shamans, specialists in AoE fights needed with the plethora of adds and trash EVERYWHERE (I believe Blizzard went overboard on the new raids trash - good thing for us though) also how we can always switch heals in a pickup 10man with not much loss of efficiency with the same gear.

Negatives: Well, I won't lie we still will be outDPSed by many classes. Shadow Priests are just amazing right now and Warlocks are King. If you NEED to be top DPS you should stay away. But if the perks of a Shaman and mobility are fun to you, you should take a look at us.
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90 Orc Warlock
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You're right, it isn't as easy being an elemental shaman compared to other classes. You might get looked over. But that's also a good thing. In most my time in BG's I get ignored because I'm just a shaman. People tunnel warlocks mages and priests long before they do me. My hardest battle is against hunters, not mages. I can purge mages, burst mages, wind shear, grounding, hex, etc. I can't wind shear hunters so it's a lot more difficult. But anyways, I like being und estimated because it allows me to shine. My CC is worse, yes. But in a way my survivability is better. I can hex someone and heal myself from 10% to full. Hunters and mages can't heal the way we can. Plus when defending nodes with a class that can't heal it's nice to offheal them so we can crush the opposition.
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100 Draenei Shaman
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PVP: Its called resto. I dont get the masochists who dps pvp as Shaman. DPS pvp as Arms Warrior and do Shaman heals and you'll have the whole world at your fingertips.
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@ Wicked, not to give a rude response but your right, most other classes cant heal like we can, they can heal WILE fighting. An Ele shaman is either Offensive trying to but out as much dmg as possible, or completely defensive putting out little to no dmg, which is an old mechanic.

Your completely right about being underestimated in Bgs thought, unfortunately that's not the case in arenas
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90 Orc Warlock
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And yes my burst setup is Stormlash, pvp trink, Orc racial, elemental mastery, flame shock, unleash flametongue, ascendance, lava bursts. (I don't have elemental blast yet) but with that, I nuke down any target with ease. Granted I'm at the top of the 89 bracket, but I don't have gear like others.
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@Shockstorm - Exactly my point! We're being forced to play resto, and you act like it's not a bad thing. It shouldn't be like that.
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90 Orc Warlock
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We can heal WHILE fighting when taking ancestral guidance as a talent, which I highly recommend. I tested it out in a duel and at 89 I gained 160k HP in about 3-4 seconds. CDs used yes. But still, I enjoy it. Plus natures guardian heals you passively without having to click anything :p and your response wasn't rude, this is just a discussion.
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90 Orc Warlock
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I did incredibly well in BG's last night. Finally got my 100,000 honorable kills achievement. It's rewarding standing there after killing 3 people because you know they are saying wtf just happened. It's just one elem sham. Lol. And my gear isn't as good as others in that bracket. You can see for yourself, Rohar on darkspear horde.
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..good for you
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90 Orc Warlock
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Well no need to be a sarcastic prick about it lol sheesh.
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90 Orc Shaman
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It doesn't look like you do enough pvp on your shaman to know what's it's actually like. Only 4k honor kills, zero rbg rating and no arena teams to speak of. I think elemental shaman are a lot of fun. I'm not an elitist I'm just honestly suggesting you do some pvp on your shaman before you complain about it, I think you'll find it's a lot of fun.
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