Kinda impressed with rets atm

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bottom of the barrel and not spamming the forums like mages.

http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25H/all/14/60/default/
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90 Worgen Mage
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They're bottom on just the 25H parses, on everything else, they aren't. And they're only down by what, 1-2k dps from the next closest? The spread on the 25H is really small excepting the top two.
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sword of light to 20% and a censure buff please ty
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They're bottom on just the 25H parses, on everything else, they aren't. And they're only down by what, 1-2k dps from the next closest? The spread on the 25H is really small excepting the top two.


that's true but isn't people usually only 2k between the next one except top. but if mage were in the exact position as ret they would q.q. a storm
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90 Worgen Mage
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You mean like frost and arcane in 10H? http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/10H/all/14/60/default/#1111111101111111111010100000000000
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The servant spec with alch. is plenty useful - Kings me bro, drop feast, hand out pots, cauldron or we'll get another retri to carry. Freedom Protection Purity Sacred Shield the real dps. Retri just lacks a few things make them drop health stones, mana biscuits, and B-rez and theirs all the utility a retri needs for his 25 man spot
Edited by Mìlf on 3/21/2013 4:35 PM PDT
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You mean like frost and arcane in 10H? http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/10H/all/14/60/default/#1111111101111111111010100000000000


please dont tell me you linked heroic?
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03/21/2013 03:29 PMPosted by Fayte
You mean like frost and arcane in 10H? http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/10H/all/14/60/default/#1111111101111111111010100000000000


please dont tell me you linked heroic?


And you didn't?
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03/21/2013 03:29 PMPosted by Fayte
You mean like frost and arcane in 10H? http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/10H/all/14/60/default/#1111111101111111111010100000000000


please dont tell me you linked heroic?


Hypocrite much?
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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There's not a lot of Ret HM data because Rets simply aren't taken if you have a sufficient number of Holy/Prot Paladins to cover hand spells/AMs. Far better to take Rogues (for smokebombs and superior single target dps) or DKs (insane DPS in all situations).
Edited by Deculture on 3/21/2013 7:14 PM PDT
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There's not a lot of Ret HM data because Rets simply aren't taken if you have a sufficient number of Holy/Prot Paladins to cover hand spells/AMs. Far better to take Rogues (for smokebombs and superior single target dps) or DKs (insane DPS in all situations).


Not alot of retri data simply b/c the spec isn't close to other dps
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bottom of the barrel and not spamming the forums like mages.

http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25H/all/14/60/default/


Look where Arcane is on those parses. . . oh wait, not even included. . .
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It's really because deep down we know that it isn't ret or windwalker or shaman that need some attention, but mages. The truth is that DPS and constant hand holding doesn't matter when you have an uninspired rotation and old mechanics to lock horns with every night. That's the real injustice here. In fact it's a slap in the face. Yeah - I said it. I don't even main a mage and I'm mad. Forget the one DPS spec you have being impotent - if you are a mage and have even one spec that isn't represented it's an affront to mankind. I just hope Ghostcrawler and company can find the strength to rise to the occasion and really fix for good the crisis we have here.
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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bottom of the barrel and not spamming the forums like mages.

http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25H/all/14/60/default/


Look where Arcane is on those parses. . . oh wait, not even included. . .


touche my good mage touche....
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1 Blood Elf Paladin
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dont worry guys, patch 6.0 will fix it.
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It's really because deep down we know that it isn't ret or windwalker or shaman that need some attention, but mages. The truth is that DPS and constant hand holding doesn't matter when you have an uninspired rotation and old mechanics to lock horns with every night. That's the real injustice here. In fact it's a slap in the face. Yeah - I said it. I don't even main a mage and I'm mad. Forget the one DPS spec you have being impotent - if you are a mage and have even one spec that isn't represented it's an affront to mankind. I just hope Ghostcrawler and company can find the strength to rise to the occasion and really fix for good the crisis we have here.


Last time I checked Paladins had two other specs too. Me wanting to be Arcane is no more selfish/ridiculous than you wanting to be only Ret.
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03/21/2013 09:00 PMPosted by Alordis
It's really because deep down we know that it isn't ret or windwalker or shaman that need some attention, but mages. The truth is that DPS and constant hand holding doesn't matter when you have an uninspired rotation and old mechanics to lock horns with every night. That's the real injustice here. In fact it's a slap in the face. Yeah - I said it. I don't even main a mage and I'm mad. Forget the one DPS spec you have being impotent - if you are a mage and have even one spec that isn't represented it's an affront to mankind. I just hope Ghostcrawler and company can find the strength to rise to the occasion and really fix for good the crisis we have here.


Last time I checked Paladins had two other specs too. Me wanting to be Arcane is no more selfish/ridiculous than you wanting to be only Ret.


LOL. Because Ret isn't a completely different role then the other 2 specs. Switching roles is the equivalent of, if not worse than, main switching. Any semi-competent guild doesn't have the space for you to go prot or holy if ret is garbage (which is pretty much is atm).
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03/21/2013 09:00 PMPosted by Alordis
It's really because deep down we know that it isn't ret or windwalker or shaman that need some attention, but mages. The truth is that DPS and constant hand holding doesn't matter when you have an uninspired rotation and old mechanics to lock horns with every night. That's the real injustice here. In fact it's a slap in the face. Yeah - I said it. I don't even main a mage and I'm mad. Forget the one DPS spec you have being impotent - if you are a mage and have even one spec that isn't represented it's an affront to mankind. I just hope Ghostcrawler and company can find the strength to rise to the occasion and really fix for good the crisis we have here.


Last time I checked Paladins had two other specs too. Me wanting to be Arcane is no more selfish/ridiculous than you wanting to be only Ret.


So dead on bro I'm with you it's an outrage that there is even one mage spec that isn't represented at the top. I honestly don't know how you have the grit and determination to live with it. Someone at Blizzard has a real sick sense of humor, because this arcane situation is just bad form.
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
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Realistically, it's pretty early to start getting worked up over numbers. We've yet to see the results of 4 piece, for example, which looks promising for ret. At the level most of us are playing at, our numbers might be a bit below average right now but not so much that a good player can't do well enough.
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03/21/2013 11:52 PMPosted by Carmageddon
Realistically, it's pretty early to start getting worked up over numbers.


considering how melee unfriendly some heroics are, and ret doesnt offer the dps of say, a rogue...alarm bells are ringing, tbh.
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