Shadow 2pc and temporary haste buffs...

90 Undead Warlock
5620
We're a joke compared to other casters.... GG rerolling warlock.


at least you guys still beat... elemental?

All jokes aside, I know one of the things people look forward to in the raiding is tier bonuses because it adds a little extra flare to thier character. When you are force to bank your tier because it gives you less dps than that is a serious problem.
Edited by Malíx on 5/2/2013 2:42 AM PDT
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90 Human Priest
12730
Fixed in 5.3 at the latest I'm guessing.
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90 Pandaren Priest
7565
We're a joke compared to other casters.... GG rerolling warlock.


No, we aren't. But please, do reroll warlock so I don't have to read your ridiculous posts about spriests.
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90 Tauren Paladin
9685
Fixed in 5.3 at the latest I'm guessing.


So it will only be broken for half a tier? Im pleased by blizzards time frame to fix this. 3+ months isnt bad at all.
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90 Human Priest
12730
So it will only be broken for half a tier? Im pleased by blizzards time frame to fix this. 3+ months isnt bad at all.


This also falls on us for not noticing until a few weeks ago.
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90 Troll Priest
15225
Why is this still an issue?
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90 Pandaren Priest
10300
No idea. If there's a fix, this is a perfect thing to hotfix. It's a known spec-changing bug that's detrimental. And it's not like spriests are being held back from being top dps - we're pretty solidly middle right now. Fixing this would simply reward smarter play.
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90 Human Priest
12900
Fixed in 5.3 at the latest I'm guessing.
Given the "fixes" that I've seen by Blizz, I'd say just equip non-tier pieces. Shameful on their part really, I'm sure they knew about this going into 5.2 and it takes a whole patch to fix?! Really!?
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33 Undead Priest
400
Gotta love how they have a fix but wont fix it yet another week!
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90 Undead Warlock
5620
05/06/2013 11:13 AMPosted by Taxem
Fixed in 5.3 at the latest I'm guessing.


So it will only be broken for half a tier? Im pleased by blizzards time frame to fix this. 3+ months isnt bad at all.


Not a mage so dont expect immediate fixes. People already think Spriest are OP as it is
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90 Human Priest
9310
I was seeing my dot fall off early too when it still had time left. I was wondering what was going on.
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90 Human Priest
9310
I just read the first page, but...

...the set bonus as it stands is a DPS loss, and is not "useless" but rather worse than useless at it reduced the DPS of any Shadow Priest that wears it, making our 4 piece also inferior because there is no way to turn off the 2 piece.

So, best to use off set items or in a worse case scenario, or items from 5.1 unless the ilvl different is too drastic to compromise the stats.

Dot snap-shotting is a core mechanic of the class this expansion, but it could be seen as "gaming" dps. Being as it is one of the main ways us as casters can stay competition, assuming the game is balanced mostly around logs of which those participating are thus gaming said logs, then this either isn't a very smart set bonus, or it isn't an intended affect.

This 2+4 piece set "bonus" is more akin to a perk in Fallout 3 where you have an equivalent bad thing happening at the same time as something good happens. Which is fine...as long as every class' bonus is like that, and not just that of the priest.


I have also decided not to use the 4 piece bonus. Not only is it a DPS loss, to me the stats on those pieces kinda suck. I want haste an crit, not spirit and mastery.
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90 Human Priest
12730
Alright so this should be fully fixed when 5.3 hits Soon™

To explain this graphically:
"|" are DoT ticks and "-" represent 0.5 seconds between them

SW:P looks like this currently because it was applied with Haste procs

|---|---|---|

When Shadow Apps extend it while those Haste procs are not active the DoT should look like:

Live: |-----|-----|-----|
PTR: |---|---|---|-----|

So yes, currently DoTs are being 'wiped' of Haste effects when extended by Shadow Apps w/ 2pc T15 even though they keep all the other modifiers on all non-extended ticks already on the target. 5.3 should make it so ALL effects (including hawt Haste procs) are preserved on the non-extended ticks.

You *may* want to take some off-pieces in the meantime depending on availability in your raid's loot, but I certainly wouldn't vendor/shard your Tier 15 gear because you'll want to put it right back on when 5.3 drops.
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90 Troll Priest
LA
13775
05/06/2013 04:29 PMPosted by Woaden
So it will only be broken for half a tier? Im pleased by blizzards time frame to fix this. 3+ months isnt bad at all.


This also falls on us for not noticing until a few weeks ago.

No, it doesn't.

Also, Kaesebrezen's PTR log showed that SA hits are not even updating haste after the "initial duration" - the SWP kept it's haste buffs until it wore off due to lack of SA extensions after a while (26 seconds total).

If this remains the case when the fix is finally implemented onto live, the 2pc becomes a strong dps gain - careful proc watching will allow you to take even more advantage of big procs than normally possible.
Edited by Sheytan on 5/9/2013 3:43 PM PDT
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90 Troll Priest
LA
13775
I have also decided not to use the 4 piece bonus. Not only is it a DPS loss, to me the stats on those pieces kinda suck. I want haste an crit, not spirit and mastery.

Well, sure spirit is very easy to come by at this point in the game, but I want mastery and not crit. However, the difference between the two is not gigantic for either of us, so we're both far better off using your 4pc once the tier is fixed.
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90 Human Priest
12705
Love how they can fix warlock tier with a hot fix but we have to wait until patch 5.3
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90 Human Priest
12900
Love how they can fix warlock tier with a hot fix but we have to wait until patch 5.3
^This, so much this.
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90 Dwarf Priest
8405
I feel like even without the haste buff wiping, the tier set is a pain in the butt. I'll watch my timers and start casting Vampiric Touch before it falls off, only for the duration to extend while I'm casting, making me feel like I wasted a tick. It's just kind of annoying.
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90 Troll Priest
12745
However, the difference between the two is not gigantic for either of us, so we're both far better off using your 4pc once the tier is fixed.


Completely disagree. There is a LOT of multi-dotting this tier and fights where you can't stay in melee. With multi-dotting the 4p is completely useless since you will always be at apparition cap. Single target 4p *is* probably better provided you can stand in melee without penalty...which is pretty much never. Otherwise with decent RNG on UVLS I am often SA capped single target while standing at ~25 yards. When you consider that + better itemized pieces and 541 off-pieces, I don't really think 4p is worth it.

So basically, I would consider using 4p on say...Ra-den.
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90 Draenei Priest
4095
Love how they can fix warlock tier with a hot fix but we have to wait until patch 5.3


THIS
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