An Anti-Camping Guide

Given the recent influx of players to Ravenholdt (some of whom do not have a PvP background), I thought it might be helpful to share some tips that some people have for avoiding being camped. The tips here comes from a thread on the TE site and the majority of this post was originally composed by Reesee, with other TE members chiming in.

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1. Ganking vs. Camping vs. World PvP

I define ganking as the act of killing a player who is at a severe disadvantage. Typically this means level difference, but I also include gear and spec considerations, and situational considerations (killing a player that's fighting a mob and low on health). Basically, I consider ganking to be killing someone in a dishonorable fashion. If the ganker hangs around and repeatedly kills you when you rez, that's camping. If a similarly-leveled member of the opposite faction engages you in a bout of PvP combat, kills you and goes about his merry way, that's world PvP. I've seen these three terms used interchangably so many times, but there really is a difference.

2. Location

This is geared more towards lowbies and new players. On our PvP server, any zone outside of the major cities and starting zones is contested territory, meaning horde can attack you there. But not all contested territories are equal! Where you choose to quest will have an impact on what kind of horde opposition you can expect. Areas with a strong goblin presence and neutral questgivers mean that you'll be in very close proximity to enemy players. Ratchet, Stranglethorn Vale, Tanaris, Winterspring, Area 52 and countless other little quest hubs are open to both factions. Hillsbrad Foothills has traditionally been a prime spot for PvP and the folks who routinely raid Southshore aren't afraid to cut down any lowbie they see, though that's changed now. Ask around if you're unsure where you should level.

For the lowbies, Redridge Mountains and Duskwood offer few, if any, quests for horde players, so the only hostilities you'll encounter there are folks occassionally causing a ruckus in Lakeshire or Darkshire. I've found that Desolace truly lives up to its namesake as well, and Felwood isn't too bad these days. With the introduction of Wrath of the Lich King, Outland is nowhere near as populated as it once was, and I still find places like Zangarmarsh and Blade's Edge Mountains to be the easiest leveling zones of them all. Similarly, Howling Fjord doesn't see as much traffic as Borean Tundra on account of both sides having to go a little farther out of their way to get there.

3. Know Your Surroundings

This is the #1 rule to avoid getting killed. Always, always keep an eye on your surroundings. Before heading into a quest area, scout it out; a task made far easier if you have a flying mount. If there seems to be a lot of horde questing there too, go find another quest to do while they finish up. If you're fighting mobs, spin the camera around every once in a while to make sure no one's sneaking up behind you. If you see a red name, it's a good idea to err on the side of caution and move elsewhere, so you can safely assess the situation from afar. Hunters and druids, make the most out of your ability to track humanoids, though higher-level players have access to buff foods that provide the same benefit.

4. You Just Got Killed, Now What?

Maybe you got ganked, or maybe a scrub just caught you off guard. You released and made your way back to your corpse. Do not hit that accept button! Too many people think they can rez on top of their corpse, buff and sit down to eat and drink. If you do that, you're just asking for a camping. Take the opportunity to examine your surroundings before proceeding. Is the ganker still around? Is he questing, or does it look like he's waiting for you? Does he have friends? If you got killed by a player with stealth, you can reveal their location by moving close to them in ghost form. Spend a minute searching the area immediately around your corpse, especially the high ground and prime lookout spots.

Then rez behind a tree. I know, kind of counter-intuitive isn't it? But it does work. Use your surroundings to your advantage; trees, pillars, big rocks, bushes... they all serve the same purpose. If you're in a multi-storied building, you might be able to rez on a different floor. If you can put an obstacle between yourself and your attacker, it increases your chances of getting away, and that's really your top priority at this point. If you suspect your assailant intends to camp, don't stick around.
Edited by Aerana on 4/5/2013 10:39 AM PDT
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5. Calling in the Reinforcements

Know the in-game global channels (like /RP) and the people in the community who are eager to help with these situations. Similarly, there are coalitions of guilds that are willing to help out Allies getting camped. For example, the Council (<Twilight Empire>, <Reprisal>, <The Sentinels>, and <The Indelibles>) have a large player-base to call upon and a lot of us are eager to help out in PvP situations. Knowing the community and reaching out to people will make it more likely that you'll have people respond in these situations

Please understand that once the problematic player has been dealt with, an entourage of 90s can't necessarily escort you around the zone while you quest. Someone else might need help, or they might have prior engagements. Some might stick around, but if it looks like things have calmed down, most people will move on.

Also, remember that violence begets more violence. You get camped. An Ally comes in and camps the camper. Hordie gets on local defense and cries, "I'm being camped by Alliance!". People log onto their 90s and bring in friends. So keep that in mind.

6. When All Else Fails...

There might come a time when you're killed and no one can help you. Either there's no one around, or everyone's busy. You got killed and it doesn't look like the ganker is going to leave any time soon. What do you do? The answer is simple: something else. Go make a sandwich, watch some TV, check your e-mail, play an alt or play another game. Despite peoples' claims, I've never seen a horde with the attention span necessary to camp a single corpse much longer than 10 or 15 minutes. It won't take long for them to assume you're gone and move on.

7. Extra Tricks and Tips

Invest in invisibility potions. Keep five or so on hand in case of an emergency. I've gotten out of a couple dire situations thanks to these little guys.

Don't be afraid to use your hearthstone. By the time you fly back to your destination, the ganker might be gone. Also, the cooldown on hearthstones is being reduced to 15 minutes with guild perks, so there's even less reason not to use it.

Know your class abilities (stealth, invisibility, shadowmeld, etc.).

Some addons like Stalker (I'm not sure if this is still working) can be helpful. These addons scan your combat log for enemy activity and can alert you if Horde are near. Additionally, addons that track players for KoS purposes can help you remember if certain Horde have killed you before.

You're never truly safe unless you're in an Alliance-controlled territory and not flagged for PvP. Don't count on NPC guards to successfully defend you. You'd be surprised how many gankers would gladly die at the hands of NPCs and pay the repair costs, just as long as they can kill you first.

I should emphasize that there's no single solution to any given situation. The secret to avoid being camped is to patiently observe, adapt your strategy to fit the circumstances and execute it swiftly.

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I welcome additional advice from other members of the community and I hope this helps some of our players!
Edited by Aerana on 4/5/2013 11:51 AM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Warlock
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Excellent guide, thank you for sharing with us.

One thing that I will do is to pull out my Combat Log, set it to 'everything' and just keep the corner of my eye on it. It will show red text by default for opposite-faction players, so even if they're not in my direct field of visibility, I can see if one's fighting something nearby. You did mention addons that will do different things based on what it sees - the ones that pop up "a rogue stealthed nearby!" notifications are very helpful.

Also, the cooldown on hearthstones is being reduced to 30 minutes in the next patch, so there's even less reason not to use it.


I believe it's this way currently. The guild perk reduces it to 15 minutes.
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I believe it's this way currently. The guild perk reduces it to 15 minutes.


Thank you, Starien. The guide is taken from a pretty old post and while I tried to edit it to reflect current gameplay, I missed the hearthstone note! That has been edited.

And your advice on pulling out the combat log is helpful too. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for the input!
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100 Human Paladin
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Thank you for writing this up Aerana. I like this so much I requested a Sticky. The advice is valid for all PvP realms.
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100 Dwarf Death Knight
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Sticky!
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90 Blood Elf Warlock
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Definitely sticky-worthy. I clicked dat button.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Sticky'd!
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100 Dwarf Shaman
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Oolaki's Anti-Camping Guide: "Make reservations at a nice hotel"
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1 Human Rogue
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8.If you see Team Muffin just log.
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27 Pandaren Warrior
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but I also include gear and spec considerations


You consider it "dishonorable" to kill players of certain specs? <.<

How strange.
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8.If you see Team Muffin just log.


i lol'ed pretty good right there!

normaly i just remove some of my gear so they have a chance.
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oh i forgot great post Aerana
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100 Dwarf Shaman
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04/06/2013 12:17 PMPosted by Machival
but I also include gear and spec considerations


You consider it "dishonorable" to kill players of certain specs? <.<

How strange.


If they don't really stand a chance, and 1v1 all other things being equal, the attacker's class/spec is an 'I WIN' button, then yeah there'd be some cheese to go with that whine.

04/06/2013 12:32 PMPosted by Rondo
8.If you see Team Muffin just log.


i lol'ed pretty good right there!


Maybe that was a typo? log = lol?
Edited by Oolaki on 4/6/2013 2:54 PM PDT
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90 Undead Warrior
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04/05/2013 10:37 AMPosted by Aerana
Go make a sandwich,


Ah, the good old sandwich method. If they're not gone by the time you've made your sandwich, then hey, at least you now have a tasty sandwich.
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100 Human Paladin
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Boy do I remember how frustrated the sandwich advice made me as a newbie.
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90 Night Elf Mage
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Boy do I remember how frustrated the sandwich advice made me as a newbie.


Such is life.
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90 Tauren Druid
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Great post, I normally remain neutral and don't attack op faction, unless defending myself, others or Horde Capitals, Citys or Towns.

Now in my travels, if I see a low level character of either faction being over whelmed by mobs, I tend to assist..carefully if op fact, and kill the mobs that are killing them. I will even ask a person on RealID to give them a heads up that I will not kill them or attack them so they will not panic or attack me for my charity of assitance. When done, I move on.

Not to toss a Snickers bar in the swimming pool, but I do believe that not all who are of TE follow these guildlines. Cause a certain 40 something Riskbreakers monk saw a certain 90 TE hunter in Felwood recently. The Monk waved and was repaid with an arrow to the face and quick scalping. The only positive thing about the random meet was that the monk was not killed again...again...again and it gave me some free time to make a samwich and get a coke.
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90 Night Elf Rogue
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Great post, I normally remain neutral and don't attack op faction, unless defending myself, others or Horde Capitals, Citys or Towns.

Now in my travels, if I see a low level character of either faction being over whelmed by mobs, I tend to assist..carefully if op fact, and kill the mobs that are killing them. I will even ask a person on RealID to give them a heads up that I will not kill them or attack them so they will not panic or attack me for my charity of assitance. When done, I move on.

Not to toss a Snickers bar in the swimming pool, but I do believe that not all who are of TE follow these guildlines. Cause a certain 40 something Riskbreakers monk saw a certain 90 TE hunter in Felwood recently. The Monk waved and was repaid with an arrow to the face and quick scalping. The only positive thing about the random meet was that the monk was not killed again...again...again and it gave me some free time to make a samwich and get a coke.

Bob, are you in-game to chat with me a moment? Horde-side or Alliance side. Let me know what toon you're on.
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