Inscribed Bag of Hydra-Spawn

90 Tauren Monk
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Inscribed Bag of Hydra-Spawn

Looking over some charts this trinket has by far the worst procs compared to a few of the healing trinkets. Over a 6 min fight, these were the numbers we obtained.

Infinite Power 59 procs 88.4 % uptime Lightning-Imbued Chalice
Cloudburst 14 procs 24.5 % uptime Horridon's Last Gasp
Shield of Hydra 2 procs 2.3 % uptime Inscribed Bag of Hydra-Spawn

This trinket looked amazing but, it is a pile of poop till it gets buffed. I am sure and do apologize if this subject was already discussed in recent posts.
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90 Night Elf Priest
5045
It is a bit below par, and I think it was recently hot fixed.

Someone please correct me, I'm probably wrong.
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90 Pandaren Priest
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It is a bit below par, and I think it was recently hot fixed.

Someone please correct me, I'm probably wrong.


It was hotfixed. It's done little, if anything, to improve the trinket.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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I've got the TF version off of normal first week. It's done one thing really well since, buffing my ilvl while sitting in my bag...
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90 Night Elf Druid
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It makes a fine sha crystal, and possibly a haunting spirit if your lucky.
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90 Night Elf Priest
5045
It is a bit below par, and I think it was recently hot fixed.

Someone please correct me, I'm probably wrong.


It was hotfixed. It's done little, if anything, to improve the trinket.


Adding more insult to injury.

It makes a fine sha crystal, and possibly a haunting spirit if your lucky.


That'd be the only useful proc it ever gives, looking over what other people have said about it.
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90 Pandaren Priest
14930
I use it because I don't have anything better. xD The chunk of spirit lets me reforge away from other things. But I swap to my Relic when I'm Holy. Heh.
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90 Night Elf Priest
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I use it because I don't have anything better. xD The chunk of spirit lets me reforge away from other things. But I swap to my Relic when I'm Holy. Heh.


That makes sense, sadly.

I should have kept my relic-- it's a sha crystal now. In other news, your armory profile makes you look down right scary. Angry panda is angry.
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100 Blood Elf Priest
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In other news, your armory profile makes you look down right scary. Angry panda is angry.

Oh, my.
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90 Pandaren Priest
14930
In other news, your armory profile makes you look down right scary. Angry panda is angry.


At least someone is scared of me. My guild just giggles when I get mad. >:|
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90 Gnome Priest
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Yeah, it's...not good. I tried the normal version out last night to see how it actually did. The proc averaged around 1% of my total healing. Highest was 2% on Horridon.
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90 Tauren Shaman
15790
Look at the uptime of it isn't really useful since something like Infinite Power has high uptime but is essentially the same sort of thing. Looking at it's healing done would be more accurate.

Not that I disagree, I use it for the spirit or I put my Relic of Chi'ji back in, it is still !@#$ing terrible.
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90 Pandaren Priest
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I use it because I don't have anything better. xD The chunk of spirit lets me reforge away from other things. But I swap to my Relic when I'm Holy. Heh.


Yeah, not sure whether the bag pulls ahead of 2/2 Relic for Disc. I made a post above but messed up teh numbers, hence the deletion. Assuming 15s between Rapture procs I believe the bag ends up being about 1k mp5 more than 2/2 Relic. But the Relic provides 1247 Intelligence. So it comes down to ~1800 secondary stats and the bag proc vs ~1200 Intelligence. I'll let the super math people figure out which is better.

As an edit, it's actually worse for the bag than I thought (the 1800 number above is wrong, forgot about Rapture there). A Disc Priest getting consistent Rapture procs every 15 seconds actually only needs ~950 Spirit to gain 1k mp5 (~475 from Rapture, ~535 from Spirit regen). So my guess is using the bag and reforging out of Spirit would be inferior to 2/2 Relic. This is because the most you could reforge out of Spirit before Relic ends up providing more regen is ~950 Spirit. I somehow doubt 950 more throughput secondary stats and the bag proc will surpass 1247 Int (super math people feel free to correct me).

Now if you were trying to maximize your Spirit it's a different story.......
Edited by Volios on 4/19/2013 9:26 AM PDT
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90 Draenei Paladin
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It is terrible. I tried it out in an LFR the other night and I'm going back to my 489 trink until I get a better alternative.
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91 Night Elf Druid
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Horrible bag of hydra garbage!
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1.5k spirit. That is all. And the up time might seem small due to the pathetic excuse of a shield getting demolish immediately. ^^
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100 Tauren Druid
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Seems like there's always some gear that is simply not up to par with its competition.

I can see a place for the Bag:

• An alt, or a new player, who hasn't bothered to rep grind for any of the 5.0 or 5.1 trinkets, and didn't have any luck in t14. For this player, the Bag is a great upgrade from the Vial of Icharous Blood that they've been using.

This trinket looked amazing but


Never looked amazing to me.

However, Horridon's is making me very happy. Looking at logs, it's generally kicking me back almost as much mana as I'm getting from Innervate.
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100 Human Priest
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Yeah, both spirit trinkets in ToT need a boost. But I'm actually looking into trying to pick on of them up not because of the spirit or the proc on them, but because you can reforge them into a throughput stat. Remember, you only need as much spirit as you need mana to safely complete an encounter. If you can game this legendary gem, double throughput trinkets might make a lot of sense, even if one of the secondary effects is terrible throughput comparatively.
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90 Night Elf Druid
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but because you can reforge them into a throughput stat. Remember, you only need as much spirit as you need mana to safely complete an encounter


Doesn't this logic only hold true if you have no access to a trinket without static int?

Not hating on secondary stats or anything but noting gives as much throughput as int. The valor trinket is superior to the h version of either spirit trinket imo.
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