Subterfuge

80 Gnome Death Knight
6090
Ah yes....Good rogues will kill you before you even see them.
There is NO such thing as PEEL when you are dead before they even come out, in equal gear.

Terrible in 2s, even worse in 3s.

This needs be looked at and fixed.
Take it away and add a nice defensive instead. Rogues need to see a good D buff anyway.

But Being able to global someone before you can even see them is retarded.

/thisgame
smh
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90 Tauren Paladin
16440
Rogues are one of those classes where people complain about them but when you actually play a rogue it's not as faceroll as you thought
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90 Undead Rogue
8475
You don't know what a global is.
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90 Human Death Knight
6490
Rogues are one of those classes where people complain about them but when you actually play a rogue it's not as faceroll as you thought

Faceroll and rogue are two things that I would never use together. Maybe mongoloid, fotm or OP, never faceroll.
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80 Gnome Death Knight
6090
Rogues are one of those classes where people complain about them but when you actually play a rogue it's not as faceroll as you thought


04/18/2013 07:12 PMPosted by Whatevas
Good


04/18/2013 07:12 PMPosted by Whatevas
rogues


04/18/2013 07:12 PMPosted by Whatevas
Good rogues


Good rogues will kill you before you even see them
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i agree, subterfuge really needs to go. braindead mechanic
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90 Undead Rogue
4445
Subterfuge is no more "brain dead" than anything else in the game. It's just really good with the extra 20 energy.
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LOL
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90 Human Paladin
9335
Bad rogues are really bad, but I still think we need to try and balance as much as possible on what players playing near the skill ceiling are doing.

I didn't even think rogues were that broken (certainly very strong, but not downright broken) until they started using PvE trinkets. They are absolutely gamebreaking on a rogue.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
10400
you may take a lot of damage

but you won't die

subterfuge is basically like, one or two extra attacks

not whatever you are thinking
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Subterfuge is no more "brain dead" than anything else in the game. It's just really good with the extra 20 energy.
..???
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90 Human Hunter
13130
By the way guys, Ambush still costs 60 energy unless Shadow Dance is up.
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90 Undead Rogue
NMB
15845
I hate to tell you this because I certainly think subterfuge is a dumb talent but you can most definitely CC a rogue that jumps you with subterfuge active.

Subterfuge would be an amazing talent if we didn't have to live in this wotlk-infested-bursty-land of pvp.
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90 Human Warlock
6640
04/18/2013 07:12 PMPosted by Whatevas
Rogues need to see a good D


I'll show em a good D
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I find it funny that last patch we had Subterfuge and no complaints.
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90 Undead Rogue
8475
I find it funny that last patch we had Subterfuge and no complaints.


No one complained about anything about rogues last patch.

Rogues didn't exist last patch.
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90 Undead Rogue
8685
I find it funny that last patch we had Subterfuge and no complaints.


Except the talent was completely bugged and useless last patch
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