New Computer Help.

90 Human Hunter
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Think I posted this in the wrong forum (Apologies!) so posting it here also.

I posted this on the tech forums, but I figured I might see what my fellow Wyrmies say too. Any help would be welcome.

Alright, I'm actually in the market for a new computer, and I'm going with a prebuilt despite what everyone says. Just a fact of life. ;-)

Anyway, I've started looking at newegg and specifically the Avatar gaming rigs, and since I'm a relative novice at all of this I'm picking the brains of friends and some of you nice, outside folks.

Here's the two contenders (and a couple of Intel rigs):

1.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258009
2.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258007

And the two Intel rigs:

1.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258012
2.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258008

The last Intel rig is stretching my budget a bit, but part of my plan is to finance a chunk of the machine so it looks good on the ole credit report. If I do that then they're all within the realm of possibility, and I'll be able to pay a chunk up front and easily pay them off relatively quickly.

Anyway, I'm not a heavy gamer. Mostly, I'd like to be able to run WoW on ultra (if possible with any of these) at 1920x1080 resolution and run Mass Effect 3 well. Those are the only games I really play, and I'll probably pick up Mass Effect 4 when it's released too.

I've also heard that AMD doesn't run WoW as well as Intel, but does it matter with these machines? Is this a major consideration?

Lastly, I actually have the exact same card as featured in the first two computers. A XFX Radeon 7770. So, if a card is weak I can always pop it in there.

Thanks in advance for any help!
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90 Human Rogue
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What is your budget?

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1F1NF6

something like this.
You can always buy something like a 7870xt later to add in since you already have a 7770. Just keep in mine a 7770 will struggle to push ultra at 1080p
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90 Human Hunter
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My budget kind of depends. Like I said, I wanted to go through NewEgg because I can finance part of it. I have a good, steady job, but this year so far has been kind of a wash expense wise. Just a bunch of RL stuff.

If not, I'm going to have to hope my current computer holds out or dip into my savings. Not really wanting to do either.
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90 Human Rogue
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229364
switch the current video card with yours. And in the future if possible I would replace the PSU and get a stronger video card.

but generally you would want
an i5 3xxx for an intel setup

and for amd
you want something like
amd 6300 or amd 83xx

prebuilt tends to come with bad power supply and they are usually 300watts
finding one with 450+ will be a bit of challenge. but the one above has a 700 which should be fine for a 7770
Edited by Aquorius on 4/11/2013 4:11 PM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Most bang for the buck: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227472
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90 Human Hunter
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229364
switch the current video card with yours. And in the future if possible I would replace the PSU and get a stronger video card.

but generally you would want
an i5 3xxx for an intel setup

and for amd
you want something like
amd 6300 or amd 83xx

prebuilt tends to come with bad power supply and they are usually 300watts
finding one with 450+ will be a bit of challenge. but the one above has a 700 which should be fine for a 7770

Yeah, I started looking with Dell and then I looked up what PSU they were putting even in the XPSs. I'm comfortable with pulling computers apart, for the most part, but the processor stuff is still greek to me.

That really is a huge help. :-D

And the computer you linked got bookmarked. it definitely is the one on top thus far. Thank you so much!
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90 Human Rogue
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I wonder consider Sel's link as well "unless you and him posted at the same time and just missed each other"

The one I linked has a chip that can be overclocked but the motherboard paired with it won't support overclocking very well or at all

Difference between the one I linked and his are


minor difference in cpu (overclock potential)
motherboard differences (both does not support overclocking so meh)

power supply difference *Both are unknown brands so it will be recommended that you change this asap*

his already has a 7770 which is superior to the one I linked, but you already have your own 7770

50dollars differences
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90 Human Hunter
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Most bang for the buck: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227472

I missed this, apologies.

Will the 400W PSU be enough to run that card? I ask because I will probably replace it fairly quickly, but will it run it in the meantime?
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Yeah it's enough to run everything, but replacing the psu with a decent 80+ unit would be advisable. The other parts are nice though - I5, Asrock board, 8gb of ram, NZXT Source case, 7770. I guess the only downsides are the 500gb hard drive (instead of 1tb) and that it doesn't have usb 3.0 or sata 6gb/s. Still, you get a lot for the money in a pre-built and it's a decent case worth keeping through several upgrades down the road. It does have 1 pci-e 1x slot available for a nice sound card, so that's cool. If you need wireless lan I'd grab an Edimax usb adapter for $10.

In the pictures on Newegg, whoever built it didn't take advantage of the case's cable management capabilities, which is lame. But if it comes that way, you could tidy up the cables whenever you replace the psu.
Edited by Selvaganesh on 4/11/2013 9:36 PM PDT
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