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I attack on sight.
If enemy is walking, wait for acknowledgement.
Good rules to live by
I've found that we're all pretty good about non-camping/griefing...
Yah I don't really adhere to the whole camping thing, I do have a few individuals on there though.
This is my stand on WPvP:
Typically when im out in the world, im always IC. Sometimes you see me with other people, sometimes you see me talking to NPCs. Sometimes I RP by PvPing. But this is usually only with someone else in on it... I just wont go "death to everything red".
Also I am very quirky. I will NEVER kill someone worth no honor to myself. I may bat you around a little... like fear, or poly, then usually wave at you and /giggle and go on with whatever I was doing.
I dont gank, and I dont camp. I have better things to be doing with my time, than wasting my own, and someone elses.
Also if I dont want to engage in combat I will /bow to them. Of course this doesnt aways work, but mostly people get i dont want to be bothered atm.
But we all have different rules for ourselves when we pvp.
When I am on Isle Of Thunder doing PVP quests, and a member of the opposing faction is doing PVP quests in my base, I attack. I don't wait for him to finish his fight. In fact, I will use fear to run him into more mobs if I can. I don't see this as rude. It's a PVP quest. You're warned for EACH of the PVP quests you're going to be flagged.
When I go to the enemy's base, I expect, and have received no quarter. That's the whole point of a PVP quest!
If you don't want to be attacked, choose the PVE quests. If you're flagged, I will attack.
This applies to the Isle of Thunder PVP quests. This is not World of "WAVE"craft. It's World of WARcraft.
In other areas, my only restriction is -5 levels. I won't attack anyone 5 levels or more beneath me. Other than that, if you're flagged, be ready to fight. I will engage you.
yeah, a very old thread but still a relevant topic.
It is Warcraft yes, the WORLD of Warcraft is how I see though. Others inhabit your world, so still do treat people as you would want to be treated. There is such thing as being a dink and an opportunist rather than an honorable fighter.
I do agree on the PVP quest thing though, any attack on Horde NPC's is a battle situation. If you are not where you are allowed, then expect to be attacked. I am not going to reread this 16 month old thread, but do not think anyone was saying anything to the effect of sitting by while the opposing faction loots your faction's areas, but discussing personal preferences on dealing with running into the other faction while out in the world. I've killed and been killed many times while traveling about. More of the latter though-lol.
We are also an RP/PVP server. Interactions with other players can be more complex and nuanced than on PVP servers. We also dare always flagged in contested zones, unlike a PVE server, as your posting character is from.
Edited by Aovi on 8/19/2014 10:19 PM PDT
My own personal rules are :
If you are within 2 levels of me, you are fair game.
If you are in a world PvP zone or one that it is encouraged such as Wintergrasp, or Isle of Thunder regardless of your level you are fair game.
If you are a low level questing.. you are off limits. To me it's like an army tank vs a 10 year old. Whats the point and that's just cruelty for no reason. The most I may do is wave at you if you see me to remind you some horde are honorable.
If I spot alliance( within 2 levels) in contested Zones questing, or just travelling minding their own business I will /wave or something to acknowledge you, and let you know I see you too. If you attack you are fair game. But if you don't we go on about personal business.
For example we had a level 90 alliance player with his low level buddy on a rocket touring mulgore for the explorer achievement. Several of us saw them set off world defense, but they were just working on the achieve so we let them go on their way.
If you are alliance and you are attacking NPC's in a horde town or outpost, or are harassing our players.. you are dead. I honestly do not care if you are 60 and attacking the outpost with your level 60 friends, you are dead men.
Now if we could get some of our new alliance neighbors to realize how fruitless and ridiculous it is to attack and camp level 30's questing things around here might be better for large scale world clashes in the long run.
Edited by Tiamu on 8/21/2014 2:01 PM PDT
This is good stuff, kids. My thoughts:
Bottom line, we're all trying to have some fun and ignore the real world for a while. If I see an Alliance chump around, and they're the same level as me (give or take a level), I'll try to give em' a good bonk in the spirit of healthy competition.
Things I won't do, and recommend that other player's don't do:
(we've all been camped. It blows. Nuff said.)
Attack a foe who is surrounded by mobs.
(what way is that fair? Your opponent's resources are half drained by their enemies.)
Attack somebody who's on a gathering route. Everybody's gotta eat (gear up)
And on that note, a shout-out to the alliance druid in stalker form that pulled 8 NPCs to me, waited in stealth until 3 were dead, and tried to finish me off while the other 5 were still beating on me. Better luck next time, chump.
Considering that we're now considered one big realm, I figured I'd drop by on this topic. There is definitely a certain amount of personal choice to PvP etiquette.
For me, I've been on Maelstrom for about 4 years now, and I've played both sides, and at least for Maelstrom, found the Horde, with a few exceptions, to be extremely toxic. Both to each other and especially to the Alliance players. There used to be Horde guilds dedicated to the purpose of killing Alliance players for the sake of not allowing them to play, that were extremely active at the beginning of MoP when Maelstrom was 9 Horde for every 1 Alliance. But things have calmed down for the most part.
In that time, I found my etiquette to be that I would rather finish fights than to start them most of the time. I do not like the idea of picking on those weaker than you for the fun of it. I understand if you were on a low level character and someone starts camping you, especially in a group, and you want to put them back in line. If someone is the same level and is out doing their thing, thats fine I'll leave them alone as long as they leave me alone, unless they're in a pvp zone.
That being said, now that we've been merged with Lightninghoof, things are a bit different. Their Horde is far more aggressive than that of Venture Co or Maelstrom combined. They have no common decency and have absolutely no problems with camping and swarming just because they can. All they do is camp the Timeless Isle all day in large groups. They've made it impossible to go there on Alliance, because as soon as they see you, they will kill you until you leave. I can't even send alts there to try and collect gear anymore, because they will be killed endlessly. Lightninghoof Horde has no honor at all.
I'd disagree with this. The only horde on Lightninghoof that act this way consistently are the people in World PVP is Back. I've run into plenty of other horde from our server other then those in that guild and they all act pretty fair; assuming you haven't been camping them or their friends and asking to be ganked yourself.
Honestly I went out first day after the merger and found the horde on Maelstrom to be generally more hostile then those on the hoof. Fortunately most are as skilled as the riff-raff on Lightninghoof so maybe I'm just used to it.
I agree with all these except about the low lvl. If I'm going to challenge/attack some on its going to be on a fair basis. Not just about to pick on someone who will die in a hit. 2-3 lvl difference, yes I'll attack
Oh man I remember the times of Recruiter and the lovely Guild battles we would have at the Elemental Plateau...
I think the age old rule applies as usual... which has been mentioned several times
"If it's Red it's Dead"
With that said it is always going to be a personal choice at the end of the Day... Just remember if your a Camper/Griefer and things end up flipping to not your favor... Well then it is what it is. I think we are just all here for fun and knew what we got ourselves into once we joined the "PVP" based server.
With that said Happy Hunting...
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