Legendary Gem for Fire

90 Human Mage
11595
Was reading through ghost crawlers tweets today, and he responds to a question about why fire mage uptime on metagem is so low compared to other classes:

"We think there might be a problem with Fire's gem in particular."
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100 Worgen Mage
18770
Sinister Primal Diamond should now correctly have different activation rates depending on the class and specialization. In addition, activation rate for Fire Mages has been increased.
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100 Troll Mage
22010
I'm a little skeptical about it right now because there's no number attached, but I'm really glad they buffed it for us.
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90 Blood Elf Mage
10975
@Dambreville and Digerati, could you guys say when you saw those "quotes" about the meta's proc's/problems? Or on an off chance of what else was entailed? Or was it just "there is a problem here" and no more insight? I'm still a few secrets short of obtaining my gem (horrible RNG on this toon!) but after reading these posts, I'm feeling less and less excitement in obtaining it.

Yes the quest line is kind of a pain, but it basically follows your raid one way or the other, so why not spend a little more time obtaining one. On the other hand, why bother wasting the time on this toon when I could spend it on an alt or doing something else in general, when the proc rate isn't very desirable for fire atm.

Hopefully something is in the works for this meta, or mages meta's in general, because like so many others have said, mages spend the most time hardcasting spells while also losing out on the most benefits due to RNG/hardcasts/etc in terms of RPPM.
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90 Troll Mage
18105
I was getting 8-10% up-time average on four of the last five bosses in ToT normal tonight which is a slight increase over the 5-7% the night before I observed on other people's logs. The exception being Primordius @ 20% up-time but that's probably due to haste buffs and multi-dotting affecting the RPPM.
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100 Draenei Mage
19230
So did they stealth nerf this and then rebuff it in the last few days? My experience from Tuesday-Thursday is a mile apart from the low proc rates you guys are detailing.
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90 Troll Mage
18105
So did they stealth nerf this and then rebuff it in the last few days? My experience from Tuesday-Thursday is a mile apart from the low proc rates you guys are detailing.


Yes, it was getting about 25% up-time last week. Sunday it dropped to ~5% for fire, and last night it was at about ~7% for fire.
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100 Blood Elf Mage
18255
04/22/2013 07:51 PMPosted by Digerati
Sinister Primal Diamond should now correctly have different activation rates depending on the class and specialization. In addition, activation rate for Fire Mages has been increased.


Dig, where is this from? A tweet from GC?
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100 Troll Mage
20525
04/23/2013 10:22 AMPosted by Taymage


Dig, where is this from? A tweet from GC?


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/8953693/Patch_52_Hotfixes_April_22-4_22_2013
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100 Blood Elf Mage
18255
Ty Mage.
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100 Worgen Mage
18770
I got ~16.9% uptime on Heroic Jin 25, Ele and Boomkin right at 37%
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100 Undead Mage
20595
For me, it was around 30% uptime when I first got my gem, then around 9% after the coefficients got added, now around 20% in very limited testing last night. Sounds about right given what the coefficients were supposed to be (1.0, 0.3, and now 0.7 according to GC's twitter)
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100 Goblin Mage
18040
Does the improved uptime make it worth it now compared to the 3% crit meta, considering how haste is valued vs +crit stuff for fire and how much int we'd be giving up?
Edited by Donnicton on 4/24/2013 10:11 AM PDT
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100 Troll Mage
22010
Definite improvements tonight from where it was over the weekend. I'm seeing about 16-21% average uptime. Not as amazing as it used to be, but much more than I was expecting.
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90 Human Mage
11595
Just wanted to update since I got my gem and raided last night for the first time.

Aeonius is correct, my lowest up time was 16% (because I kick turtles in our tortos group) and as high as about 20% for me.

Considering its the same exact buff as heroism (though it only lasts 10 seconds instead of 40) I would think this would be better over the burning primal diamond.

I don't know how to prove which is better, but for example, mine proc'd on Magaera 12 times in one fight. That would mean 120 seconds and thats 3 extra heroisms. Mind you they aren't planned for, and they are spread out in 10 seconds each.

I'll keep playing with it, but I would assume 16-20% uptime is enough to be better than regular meta(even if its just slightly).
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90 Troll Mage
8080
Dukky is a QTPIE
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