The Paladin class is dead...

For so long, since vanilla I have played this game... Ever since cata... we have gone down hill.... Now; as a ret, we are literally dead... A dead dps class... the universal cooldown we have will sometimes get us killed... Idk whatever.. I am done with this game...
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90 Pandaren Priest
10300
A constructive post all round!
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90 Draenei Shaman
10705
I don't get it. You don't PvE, you don't PvP. So what are you complaining about, exactly?
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I don't get it. You don't PvE, you don't PvP. So what are you complaining about, exactly?


I don't know about him but I'm complaining about people who complain
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90 Draenei Shaman
10705
04/30/2013 05:36 PMPosted by Grapeshot
I don't get it. You don't PvE, you don't PvP. So what are you complaining about, exactly?


I don't know about him but I'm complaining about people who complain


Can I complain about people who complain about people who complain? Or should I instead travel really quickly counter-clockwise around the sun?
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04/30/2013 05:40 PMPosted by Adun


I don't know about him but I'm complaining about people who complain


Can I complain about people who complain about people who complain? Or should I instead travel really quickly counter-clockwise around the sun?


Pshhh you are supposed to moonwalk really really fast... Everybody knows that
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90 Pandaren Shaman
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Can I complain about people who complain about people who complain? Or should I instead travel really quickly counter-clockwise around the sun?


Pshhh you are supposed to moonwalk really really fast... Everybody knows that


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGXZOrEV7_c
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10 Blood Elf Paladin
10
the spec is in a much better place than it used to be. remember in cata? CS was your only holy power generator. remember waiting forever just to get 3? haste was a junk stat at the time, so each tv was like...12s or so without zealotry (a long cd).

ret is a little unique as the rotation gets smoother as you gear (and get more haste). eventually, there are no gaps more or less, and it's enjoyable to play, to me at least. I'd say ret is in a better place now than it ever has been. in wrath, it didnt matter what button you pressed. in cata, holy power generation was slow. now, it's way more fluid/smooth to play.

if your concern is about pvp, yeah ret isnt an OP spec, but it's still a good one. just cause a few other specs are stronger (or broken depending on your perspective) doesnt make it bad. it's more than capable.

theres a 15% dmg buff next patch to help with sustained damage (or burst, not that it is a concern), so I wouldnt shelf it just yet. things are looking pretty good, to be honest.
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90 Night Elf Death Knight
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04/29/2013 11:02 PMPosted by Socially
For so long, since vanilla I have played this game...

*ahem*

"Cool story, bro."

04/29/2013 11:02 PMPosted by Socially
Ever since cata... we have gone down hill....

You want to, I dunno, quantify that a little bit? Get some specifics? Because this is about as useless a statement as one can make.

04/29/2013 11:02 PMPosted by Socially
Now; as a ret, we are literally dead...

Literally does not mean what you think it means.

Even if you use the modern definition - which seems to mean "with great emphasis" - you're still wrong.

04/29/2013 11:02 PMPosted by Socially
A dead dps class...

See above.

04/29/2013 11:02 PMPosted by Socially
the universal cooldown we have will sometimes get us killed...

Er, what? How does Avenging Wrath get you killed?

You do know that they took Seal of Blood out of the game, right?

04/29/2013 11:02 PMPosted by Socially
Idk whatever..

"Whatever." Yeah, I'd say that sums up what you're blathering on about pretty succinctly.

I am done with this game...

Sweet! The average retribution paladin will see a small but significant improvement in skill, grammar, use of logic, and attitude.
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90 Human Paladin
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Protection Paladins are very strong tanks as of now, and Holy Paladins are arguably the strongest healing specialization in the game.

Retribution may not put out as much DPS as some other specializations, but to say that its damage output is "bad" is completely false. Regardless, Retribution plays more fluently and effectively now than it ever has, and the spec is getting a very sizable damage buff next patch which should make them very competitive on the meters with most other DPS.

Stop being such a downer.
Edited by Areos on 5/1/2013 12:14 AM PDT
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bye?
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90 Human Paladin
10885
I don't get it. You don't PvE, you don't PvP. So what are you complaining about, exactly?
Obviously he's complaining about pet battles.
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90 Undead Mage
11635
Yeah, it really sucks having literally the best defensive CD there is doesn't it? Such a tough life for you babied hybrids that currently have the top Tank and Heal spec in the game and a solid DPS spec to boot. We have Frost in PVP and....oh yeah....that's about it right now. PVE we are bottom of the pack in all three specs, so cry me a river.

I do enjoy kiting your A$$es around in BG's though. Nothing gives me greater satisfaction than slowly whittling away your health, stealing your insanely good self heals, and rooting you as you desperately spam for a bubble that is not yet off CD while helplessly chasing me around like a trained chimp. :)
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90 Human Paladin
8745
I have no idea where you are coming from, but my feeling is that Retribution is the best that its ever been.

Sure there are some very MINOR quality of life issues that could be addressed, but they are indeed minor.

If your QQ is over PVP, then please note that a great many classes at this point in time are absolutely OP as hell and need nerfs.

Just because another class needs nerfs, does not mean we need buffs.

Ret's are balanced. If you don't like it, play another class.
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