Lost to a disc priest 1v1

90 Undead Mage
12535
this should happen?

yes i know my gear is not great. Does a healer need to dps this well (assuming good gear)?

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90 Worgen Warlock
7575
1v1, the better player wins (whether it's better skill, gear, etc). Healer, tank, dps...
Edited by Jugaa on 5/2/2013 12:03 AM PDT
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90 Human Monk
9730
Disc priest is sometimes capable of winning duels against pures especially if the priest outgears the pure. You wont see hybrids lose to disc priests though.

1 DPS really shouldnt be able to kill a healer otherwise healers would disappear. The game is supposed to be balanced around 2 dps and 1 healer fighting each other. Currently 2 dps have a relatively easy time of downing a healer than in past expansions where healers were near god-like. I don't think healers have ever been weaker.
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90 Night Elf Priest
6155
this should happen?


Absolutely. What was your expectation going into pvp with ilvl 462 missing gems, enchants, reforges and a glyph even? I understand you're still gearing up and that's fine, but you have to fix a lot with your toon before you can start blaming broken game mechanics for dying to a healer.
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90 Night Elf Death Knight
7770
05/02/2013 03:19 AMPosted by Thebaine
this should happen?


Absolutely. What was your expectation going into pvp with ilvl 462 missing gems, enchants, reforges and a glyph even? I understand you're still gearing up and that's fine, but you have to fix a lot with your toon before you can start blaming broken game mechanics for dying to a healer.


He was thinking "I'm a frost mage, I'll be able to own anything now."
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90 Undead Death Knight
5600
Healers should be able to defend themselves so there is nothing to fix... working as intended.
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
7945
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good disc priests can wear you down after a while especially if you arent equal geared though i think after you get equal geared you can kill them in a deep/cs combo with no trinket or pain sup.
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90 Human Death Knight
4475
Healers should be able to defend themselves so there is nothing to fix... working as intended.


I don't have a problem with healers being able to defend themselves but I do have a problem with healers being able to kill a DPS toon. There is no reason that they should get the benefit of being able to heal through the damage of two DPS and then turn around and kill DPS. If a DPS can't kill a healer 1 vs 1, then a Healer shouldn't be allowed to kill a DPS 1 vs 1. There shouldn't be a double standard.
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90 Undead Death Knight
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I don't have a problem with healers being able to defend themselves but I do have a problem with healers being able to kill a DPS toon. There is no reason that they should get the benefit of being able to heal through the damage of two DPS and then turn around and kill DPS. If a DPS can't kill a healer 1 vs 1, then a Healer shouldn't be allowed to kill a DPS 1 vs 1. There shouldn't be a double standard.
There isn't... if two DPS can't kill a healer that means they are bad, it doesn't mean healers are OP.

Looking at your toon you have a lot of room for improvement:

- Weak gear overall
- 3 unenchanted items, 2 empty sockets in 1 item, missing Living Steel Belt Buckle
- Very poor choices in glyphs
- Very poor choices in talents
- No reforging (expertise & hit too high, haste too low)

You might think I am trolling you but I'm not... these things matter a lot. Moreover if you make poor choices setting up your toon it's likely that you make poor choices in game as well. Healers are not OP... you just need to do a lot of research & get much better.
Edited by Infestyx on 5/2/2013 7:11 AM PDT
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90 Worgen Warlock
7575
05/02/2013 07:02 AMPosted by Deathdealer
If a DPS can't kill a healer 1 vs 1, then a Healer shouldn't be allowed to kill a DPS 1 vs 1.


....it's a duel, there will always be a winner and loser. They probably dueled someone more geared, since their gear sucks... and the better person (gear, skill-wise) won...end of story.
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90 Goblin Shaman
5025
I beat people on my disc priest all the time. All it takes is the glyph that makes their bubble reflect damage.
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88 Night Elf Priest
7140
lol just plain lol!
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90 Pandaren Monk
6730
/facepalm
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90 Orc Shaman
9170
In WOTLK good healers could solo almost any dps 1v1, then they gave everyone a heal.
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90 Orc Shaman
14210
05/02/2013 03:19 AMPosted by Thebaine
this should happen?


Absolutely. What was your expectation going into pvp with ilvl 462 missing gems, enchants, reforges and a glyph even? I understand you're still gearing up and that's fine, but you have to fix a lot with your toon before you can start blaming broken game mechanics for dying to a healer.


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90 Undead Mage
10825
This entire thread is stupid. Would it have killed anyone to say,

"Yes, it's entirely possible, reasonable and normal for a significantly better geared and skilled player, regardless of spec, to beat someone in a duel."
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90 Goblin Shaman
13945
1v1, the better player wins (whether it's better skill, gear, etc). Healer, tank, dps...


Fight a frost DK as a elemental shaman and come back to me on that.. XD.
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90 Undead Warlock
11710
Yeah, it can happen.

What you need to remember is that, sorta, disco is also a hybrid, but the opposite of shadow.

Instead of killer dps and some useful healing, they have good heals, and useful dps. Smite serves to boost heals and dps, penance can be used either way, cascade, halo, and star do damage, the shield reflects damage...
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