60's Thread #176. Clugor was here.

60 Blood Elf Paladin
19765
So right now we have;
Healing scaling from pvp power is going to go up.
Healing reduction from being in pvp combat is going up.
Damage scaling from pvp power is going to go down.
Everyone's survivability is going up.

Right now this looks like it might make us more like the 70s bracket.

I think the only fair solution would be for the RBG FC damage debuff to work for Exp Off brackets. Would make the Resi buffed Tanks take 50% more damage while FCing.
60 Tauren Warrior
5545
Everyone's survivability is going up.


Baseline is staying 40% under 85, and scaling diminishes more sub 85 as well.

Only 53.96% resill on PTR, and that's in BiS resill set. 74.00% on live.

Glaive, I forgot the equation you told me for effective health, but if you could crunch up the numbers on:

11k health 54% res
as opposed to
18500 health 42% res.
Edited by Clugor on 5/4/2013 8:59 PM PDT
60 Blood Elf Paladin
19765
Baseline is staying 40% under 85, and scaling diminishes more sub 85 as well.

Only 53.96% resill on PTR, and that's in BiS resill set. 74.00% on live.

Glaive, I forgot the equation you told me for effective health, but if you could crunch up the numbers on:

11k health 54% res
as opposed to
18500 health 42% res.


GG Blizzard not putting that in the patch notes. So back to stam stacking for tanks? Hmmmm.... I dont know what to think about that. Buff to ProtWarriors and Druid FCs might be crazy good now?

Edit: But if Resi drops across the board, and damage from pvp power is dropping, and healing in pvp is dropping.... Might actually make the bracket better!? xD
Edited by Redemptìon on 5/4/2013 9:13 PM PDT
60 Night Elf Hunter
8105
What are your opinions on using gems in the 60 twink bracket?
60 Blood Elf Paladin
19765
What are your opinions on using gems in the 60 twink bracket?


05/04/2013 09:13 PMPosted by Eumaia
twink
64 Goblin Death Knight
13765
05/04/2013 09:13 PMPosted by Eumaia
60


what
60 Orc Warrior
14535
gem gear is a crutch. and a lot of people apparently have leg problems.

got em
meow
60 Undead Priest
11530
woof
100 Undead Rogue
6245
Never smoke and be on Lexipro at the same time.
60 Human Death Knight
900
05/04/2013 08:58 PMPosted by Clugor
Baseline is staying 40% under 85, and scaling diminishes more sub 85 as well.

05/04/2013 09:08 PMPosted by Redemptìon
GG Blizzard not putting that in the patch notes.


It was actually in the patch notes at one point and now it's not anymore, the most curious part is the removal.
It's not like they forgot, they readjusted to exclude the "over 85" part. I dunno nuttin what they do now.

05/04/2013 08:58 PMPosted by Clugor
Glaive, I forgot the equation you told me for effective health


Easiest way to remember is to subtract your resilience from 100 and divide your health by that number: 0.XX

100-54R=46
11000/0.46= 23913 EH

100-42R=58
18500/0.58= 31869 EH

And it looks like we're back to the point where stam can be "better" than resilience in certain circumstance.

I'm not complaining... 70%+ resil is demoralizing at our level. So I expect they'll baseline it to 65 after all -
Must ruin bracket.
60 Human Death Knight
900
BTW Cloogz, we should probably be open to the possibility that they simply haven't upped the base to 65% yet and your 54% set is just going to be 14% more than the new 65 base... or hopefully a lil less due to DR.

But that would be much like now and somewhat broken - so... probably gonna go with that. Money's on that.

edit- OK... curious situation just came up:

11000 health at 79% resil ---> 52380 EH
18500 health at 65% resil ---> 52857 EH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ib5H5auk-c
Edited by Warglaive on 5/5/2013 7:11 AM PDT
gem gear is a crutch. and a lot of people apparently have leg problems.

got em
How does it feel to crawl your way through WSG?
60 Human Death Knight
900
Probably no worse than having a shiny pair of crutches you never use...?
85 Blood Elf Paladin
11320
do queues actually pop in this bracket?
60 Blood Elf Paladin
19765
How does it feel to crawl your way through WSG?


How does it feel never to be in WSG?
60 Worgen Warrior
8645
gem gear is a crutch. and a lot of people apparently have leg problems.

got em


i crutch hard on being too lazy and too cheap to get carried in raids
60 Undead Priest
11530
05/05/2013 11:18 AMPosted by Redemptìon
How does it feel to crawl your way through WSG?


How does it feel never to be in WSG?


lol this
60 Tauren Warrior
5545
BTW Cloogz, we should probably be open to the possibility that they simply haven't upped the base to 65% yet and your 54% set is just going to be 14% more than the new 65 base... or hopefully a lil less due to DR.

But that would be much like now and somewhat broken - so... probably gonna go with that. Money's on that.


Baseline 65% has been implimented for 85+ for a while now, still 40% sub 85 though.
I don't see why they'd want to buff lower levels to 65% too.

edit- OK... curious situation just came up:

11000 health at 79% resil ---> 52380 EH
18500 health at 65% resil ---> 52857 EH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ib5H5auk-c


o.O

Although I don't think 79% is reachable, even if 65% were baseline, considering how harsh it diminishes.
Edited by Clugor on 5/5/2013 1:35 PM PDT
60 Human Death Knight
900
05/05/2013 01:13 PMPosted by Clugor
Although I don't think 79% is reachable, even if 65% were baseline, considering how harsh it diminishes.


Well, that's what I was saying - the harshness of the diminish may simply be that it is acting as if that 40 is already 65, and diminishing accordingly... follow? You got to 80% once before, right? Or darn close?

I'm not hoping for this to be the case, but I don't see why they'd remove the indicator that was already there.

They do have a habit of not being very quick to update non-cap changes. Does 70 PvP gear still have resil?
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