05/05/2013 12:12 AMBut in terms of in an RBG/BG-sense, if you are with your entire group and rolling dots on everyone and say have 10k crit -- you're overlapping and wasting SS procs.
Posted by Bawk
This is true, and certainly not to be discounted in determining the value of crit, but starsurge wastage is something that can happen no matter how little your crit.
Overloading on crit can sometimes make it so you go periods of 5-6 seconds with several wasted starsurge procs you couldn't use, but there will be many more times you can make excellent use of them. There have been several occasions now where I've gotten 3-4 successive starsurges all in a span of a team mate's deepfreeze/counterspell just from having a relatively small amount of dots up (6-7). Starsurge procs also become somewhat consistent, even predictable, after a while.
05/05/2013 12:12 AM. Granted, I'm not sure what your play style is for RBGs but, when I am in RBGs I am double dotting everything in sight and dumping every SS proc into the main target, plus casting wrath/starfire if i'm not being focused.
Posted by Bawk
One more advantage of being crit heavy is I'm able to leave out the uneclipsed dot alot of the time.
In terms of the damage output of starsurge, an eclipsed dot, and an uneclipsed dot on an equally geared opponent, these are the rough figures for me.
Eclipsed dot with 0 stacks Lunar Shower: 46k (33% less for uneclipsed dot)
Eclipsed dot with 3 stacks Lunar Shower: 51k (33% less for uneclipsed dot)
I think of it this way - essentially, an average eclipsed dot is merely a starsurge over 14 seconds. Just spreading the eclipsed dot and using starsurge, I am able to cause ~ 48k damage every gcd while I'm eclipsed. An uneclipsed dot, however, is a gcd that causes 33% less damage (at my 50% Eclipse bonus damage). It's the exact same multi dotting strat in pve really.
When I'm not getting enough shooting stars, and I already have everything dotted with my Eclipsed dots, I end up having to use gcds on a spell far inferior. With enough crit, however, I can expect to use a spell every gcd that's eclipsed, and does 50% more damage than the inferior version I'd otherwise have been forced to use. Doing this also greatly increases the value of your mastery, simply because you're using mastery buffed spells more. When I'm 1 cast away from leaving Eclipse, I just re-dot everything in sight again for the last time, and use the resulting starsurge torrent to carry me into the next Eclipse.