I want Destro as my 3rd 90 but....

90 Blood Elf Mage
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I really hate how rain of fire is mandatory on single targets and only last 7 secs.....

I heard they may change this. Has anyone confirmed?
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90 Human Warlock
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I believe GC said they were going to look at Rain of Fire changes for 5.4
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90 Undead Warlock
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they said they were going to look into increasing the ember gain from other spells
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90 Blood Elf Warlock
8780
RoF mandatory in single targets? maybe that's what I'm doing wrong...
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100 Worgen Warlock
4830
It's not just the ember generation. RoF gives you one more spell going on in the background to potentially proc your trinkets.
Edited by Khyden on 5/27/2013 8:44 AM PDT
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90 Human Warlock
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05/27/2013 10:26 AMPosted by Paratroopa
If you're playing right, you should have near 100% uptime on RoF.

Now that's just not quite true. At lower levels of gear, you flat out dont have enough haste to even come close. Maintaining a high uptime is pertinent yes, but not so much that you don't cast a single spell in between.


This reply confuses me, since higher haste shortens the length of your RoF. Theoretically, shouldn't it be easier to keep a high RoF uptime at lower gear levels? It certainly felt that way for me.
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90 Troll Warlock
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05/27/2013 10:51 AMPosted by Suzyq

Now that's just not quite true. At lower levels of gear, you flat out dont have enough haste to even come close. Maintaining a high uptime is pertinent yes, but not so much that you don't cast a single spell in between.


This reply confuses me, since higher haste shortens the length of your RoF. Theoretically, shouldn't it be easier to keep a high RoF uptime at lower gear levels? It certainly felt that way for me.


Haste increases mana regen. If you're not on a multi-target fight the odds of you being able to keep RoF up 100% is basically nil. There will be points where your mana can't handle it, especially when you're waiting for your next Dark Soul and don't want to waste embers trying to regen mana.
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90 Blood Elf Warlock
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I've been trying to keep 100% uptime, and over shorter periods I'm able to do it but when a fight drags on for a while I just can't keep my mana up
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100 Orc Warlock
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I think it adds some flavor to the spec to have RoF in the rotation...

If you dont like it...dont use it. You can still put out good damage without it.
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100 Orc Warlock
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I really hate how rain of fire is mandatory on single targets and only last 7 secs.....

I heard they may change this. Has anyone confirmed?


You are kind of playing it fast and loose with the word mandatory...

L2 play without it...if you know the spec well your damage will not be bad.
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90 Orc Warlock
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It really isnt mandatory, and should really only be used if you have enough haste. Its very usefull however, on fights such as Lei Shi or Primordius due to all the small adds you might not see, but that your RoF still catches, allowing you to maintain massive ember generation and chaos bolt your face off.
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90 Goblin Warlock
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I think it adds some flavor to the spec to have RoF in the rotation...

If you dont like it...dont use it. You can still put out good damage without it.


This x1000, I actually enjoy weaving RoF in my single target fights, keeps me busy.
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100 Night Elf Warrior
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Does using RoF return enough burning embers on single target fights to make it a valueable DPS tool?

I never use it on single target fights and still pull around 57-58K sustained, higher if I get better RNG or have CD's popped.

Would I possibly see these numbers changed if I started using my RoF on single target fights?
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100 Undead Warlock
15910
Does using RoF return enough burning embers on single target fights to make it a valueable DPS tool?

I never use it on single target fights and still pull around 57-58K sustained, higher if I get better RNG or have CD's popped.

Would I possibly see these numbers changed if I started using my RoF on single target fights?


Yes RoF does increase your damage on single target, as long as your not constantly going OOM and can't cast other abilities, but even 50% uptime should be obtainable in most situations. RoF=more embers=more chaos bolts=more damage.

And no offense but 58k sustained is not very good sir. Its actually quite bad buddy
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90 Orc Warlock
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Does using RoF return enough burning embers on single target fights to make it a valueable DPS tool?

I never use it on single target fights and still pull around 57-58K sustained, higher if I get better RNG or have CD's popped.

Would I possibly see these numbers changed if I started using my RoF on single target fights?


Yes RoF does increase your damage on single target, as long as your not constantly going OOM and can't cast other abilities, but even 50% uptime should be obtainable in most situations. RoF=more embers=more chaos bolts=more damage.

And no offense but 58k sustained is not very good sir. Its actually quite bad buddy


It is all dependent on his gear though. If he is not above 470 then it is terrible.
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90 Gnome Warlock
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I'm still breaking 110k or so without the use of RoF on single targets...
I don't find it necessary, though the faster trinket procs are nice on occasion.

I wouldn't worry about it, if you find it to be too much.
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90 Worgen Warlock
14465
RoF is not mandatory. It is min/maxing. You should be keeping it up as often as you can, but not using RoF in a single target rotation does not make or break the spec.
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90 Human Warlock
11980
It gets really annoying casting RoF every 3-5 seconds. That's all I'll say. I would love 7 seconds.
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