Okay, just stop with this heroic vs normal nonsense. This is the Healing forums- not the Heroic only healing forums.
Seriously getting sick and tired of this attitude. Just because someone does normal- heck even LFR- their opinion does matter.
And I am also sick and tired of people who dismiss the concerns of heroic mode raiders just because they do not experience the same issues in normal. The reason why I specifically called Devdan out on his posts was because of the below.
06/18/2013 07:29 PMPosted by MungohTell me why Healing Rain is broken. Because it's stationary? Why aren't your dps making an effort to stand in it? Because other healer's group heals don't require them too? Good thing Healing Rain heals for a ton more and boosts their maximum HP. And it's getting a radius increase adding 4 more yards to the spell next patch giving players EVEN MORE room to move around in the circle and still get healed. But it's totally broken because players have to take a modicum of effort to accommodate it.
I find this statement to be particularly insulting because he assumes that everyone is able to do the same and stack in heroic mode encounters, and that anyone who doesn't do that is an idiot. Well, I dare you to try this in heroic 25 encounters with damaging ground effects that make stacking dangerous and sometimes downright idiotic. Want an example? Try heroic dark animus and ask everyone to stack in your healing rain and watch the whole area become a mass of anima fonts. What is even funnier is that he assumes a 4 yard increase is gonna fix a problem with people moving out of the rain. 4 yards is minuscule (melee range) and isn't gonna help when the whole area is filled with damaging ground effects.
Though I might disagree with some of what Tiberria has posted, i.e. we are not competitive on niche stacking fights (we are when geared for throughput, and which is why I have been very reluctant to post in the shaman HPS thread), I have to concur that there are issues that only heroic mode raiders experience. For e.g. since DPS timers are so tight in heroics, you are naturally gonna cut down healers. Who gets cut first? Well. the healer whose toolkit does not cater to the mechanics of course, which is reflected in the HPS meters. In this sort of scenario, poor HPS is a symptom of the issue plaguing shaman, which is a lacking toolkit. This is what I have been arguing in my posts, which seem to have been glossed over by the general community and the devs alike.
All we are asking for are a change in mechanics to help with spread and mobile healing, not band aids that require us to gimp our stacked healing (which fyi, is already matched by other classes), just to make our spread healing "slightly" less bad. These issues crop up much more often in heroics (hate to repeat, but what devdan has posted is a prime example of the difference between normal and heroic modes). To see our efforts to raise more awareness of these issues shot down by 1) people who do not play shaman, 2) people who have a vendetta against certain posters, and 3) people who don't see this happening in normal modes, is frustrating to say the least.
In essence, if you don't want to be called out on your lack of heroic mode raiding experience or your lack of experience playing a shaman, then stop dismissing our concerns. Otherwise, I will call you by what you are: a hypocrite.
EDIT: to emphasize that I'm speaking for 25m