Any help for shadow in 5.4?

90 Human Priest
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Yet another xpac where shadow is strong out of the gate and gets progressive worse as the xpac goes on.

I used to always be at or near the top dps in my raids and now it isn't even close on most fights.

Our set bonuses have been awful for both tiers now and obviously we just aren't scaling with gear the way we need to in order to keep up.

At any rate, it looks pretty close to this:

http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings/realistic
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90 Undead Priest
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Shadow is getting buffed next tier. Didn't you see the changes to the level 90 talents and the DoT buff we're getting?
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90 Human Priest
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Shadow is getting buffed next tier. Didn't you see the changes to the level 90 talents and the DoT buff we're getting?


What DoT buff?

I saw a small buff to ToF and FDCL but that was about it (and I hadn't even seen the 6/20 update yet when I made the OP).
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90 Troll Priest
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Shadow is getting buffed next tier. Didn't you see the changes to the level 90 talents and the DoT buff we're getting?


ToF is a good buff, FDLC on the other hand isn't that great.
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90 Human Priest
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06/21/2013 09:23 AMPosted by Mindplague
Shadow is getting buffed next tier. Didn't you see the changes to the level 90 talents and the DoT buff we're getting?


ToF is a good buff, FDLC on the other hand isn't that great.


The problem mainly is that Disc is so good, even after it got nerfed.

Why take my shadow priest who is one of the worst dps specs when I can do about 50%-60% of the damage as Disc and still do massive healing. You can take ANY other dps and it is a massive gain to have a healer doing 60k dps plus another DPS.

In order for shadow to not be pointless, they really kind of need to be the upper middle class of dps, the way things are currently designed...
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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Those buffs are okay but they basically amount to the 5.3 buff and show will maintain their current position(bottom of middle of the pack/upper low tier if they are lucky) due to the fact that Spriest still scales poorly with gear. This is just not a Spriest expansion(at least from a pve standpoint).
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90 Undead Mage
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Yet another xpac where shadow is strong out of the gate and gets progressive worse as the xpac goes on.


The reverse of this is true.
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90 Troll Priest
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Just because warlocks are currently overpowered doesn't make shadow not completely fine

Also noxxic is worthless
Edited by Thesic on 6/22/2013 5:57 AM PDT
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90 Pandaren Monk
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http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25H/all/14/60/default/

These are much more realistic numbers since they're actually based on real parses. Shadow is weaker single but stronger multi target. A middle of the pack spec overall.
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25H/all/14/60/default/

These are much more realistic numbers since they're actually based on real parses. Shadow is weaker single but stronger multi target. A middle of the pack spec overall.


bottom of middle of the pack/upper low tier which they have been since MoP. Worst of all, with the exception of WW and warriors every class that is under them have a dps spec that is beating them by leaps and bounds. If that is fine than i guess Spriest is in a "Good place".
Edited by Fayte on 6/22/2013 8:36 AM PDT
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90 Night Elf Hunter
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Buff hunters.
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90 Human Priest
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http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25H/all/14/60/default/

These are much more realistic numbers since they're actually based on real parses. Shadow is weaker single but stronger multi target. A middle of the pack spec overall.


Lower middle, but yeah.

My point was a little more from my own experience and where my dps has fallen.

Again, I think the biggest problem is how powerful Disc is. Lately, my raid is nearly always better off with me healing because it is a dps gain to get my 60-80k dps while healing and have even an average dpser take my place.

There was a time when I was close to leading the meters on most fights and then shadow was usually the better option.

Sure not everyone needs to min/max and for the most part my raid isn't so serious that they care, but I choose to play a role I don't enjoy as much simply because I know the raid is better off for it.
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