AB as alliance.

63 Human Rogue
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GOLD MINES BRO! GOLD MINES!!!!! What more can really be said besides TEN PEOPLE AT GOLD MINES EVERY GAME! That is all. Needed to vent. Three hours for 400 rep is so cool.

Oh I almost forgot. Remove Gold Mines from the game. No matter how many times I tell people its a worthless node we still end up with 10 people swearing its the best base in the game. Remove gold mines. You cant tell a noob anything anyways so just remove it already.
Edited by Araxom on 6/25/2013 6:30 PM PDT
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91 Dwarf Rogue
4570
lol AB is the most ridiculously faction biased BG in the game

it's so easy for horde to get BS, Farm, and LM, and even easier for them to keep it.
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90 Blood Elf Hunter
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lol AB is the most ridiculously faction biased BG in the game

it's so easy for horde to get BS, Farm, and LM, and even easier for them to keep it.


you are on some very powerful drugs
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100 Goblin Shaman
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The alliance are very predictable. They send like their entire team to LM every game. Maybe thats why you lose, we know whats going to happen.
Edited by Kwizzlix on 6/22/2013 5:10 PM PDT
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90 Undead Warlock
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lol AB is the most ridiculously faction biased BG in the game

it's so easy for horde to get BS, Farm, and LM, and even easier for them to keep it.


AV would like to have a word with you.
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100 Undead Rogue
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AV would like to have a word with you.


why? The map for AB is arguably stronger for Horde. I'm not sure it's game breaking (since I'm not sure if they made any alteration to the rated version), but then, I've mostly played Horde AB. Personally, if it's a defensive game, farm/BS/LM all the way.
If you struggle to hold those, it can be an issue.
Edited by Scylvendi on 6/22/2013 5:26 PM PDT
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90 Tauren Paladin
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Most AB games I play Alliance always go LM instead of Mines. I usually go to Mines with a few Hordies, wipe the 3-4 Alliance (if that) that come to Mines and take it.
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100 Undead Rogue
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Most AB games I play Alliance always go LM instead of Mines. I usually go to Mines with a few Hordies, wipe the 3-4 Alliance (if that) that come to Mines and take it.


Pretty much this. It's odd to see that many consistently going to mines. Bots maybe?
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100 Human Priest
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Just wish there was a way to make objectives for a bg win more appealing , doesn't have much incentive to win it seems anymore
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100 Human Warlock
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I agree that FM, LM, BS are the best nodes to hold and the easiest to defend, but this favors Alliance. While Horde will cap Farm at the beginning, Alliance can usually get it pretty quickly. Once Alliance holds it, it is awful for Horde as dying at farm causes them to rez at the spawn point. This really makes the FM, LM, BS triangle tough for Horde.

Alliance should cap stables at first, but only take it back if it has to for the same reason. Spawning in Trollbane hurts the team.

This rezzing at the spawn is why Alliance should push Farm and Horde should push Stables. Rezzing miles from the action puts the team at a big disadvantage.
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
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Can someone please fill me in please?

It favors Horde how exactly?

excluding Stables and Farm, each faction is able to get to LM, GM, and BS in time to prevent the other faction from completing a cap of the flag.
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100 Undead Rogue
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Just wish there was a way to make objectives for a bg win more appealing , doesn't have much incentive to win it seems anymore


Yea that's the fine line: give too much and you encourage bots. Give anything slightly below too much and a percentage of the customer base doesn't try.
As was shown when Tol Barad was win-traded a couple of years ago, the player-base (in general) will do as little as they can to reap the greatest rewards.

Personally, I try because I like winning. Oh, extra honour? ok thanks.

It favors Horde how exactly?


Only slightly (and it is arguable really). It's a combination of the road placement for Horde to get to farm/LM/BS. Plus a triangle is much easier to defend that an arc (LM/ST/Mine). Game breaking? Arguable.
Edited by Scylvendi on 6/22/2013 7:07 PM PDT
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91 Dwarf Rogue
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The alliance are very predictable. They send like their entire team to LM every game. Maybe thats why you lose, we know whats going to happen.


Really the only strong strategy for Alliance in AB is to zerg LM, because GM is worthless and BS is way easier for horde to get to at the start.

The three easiest bases to hold in AB are LM, BS, and Farm. This works out for horde because their spawn point provides easy access to these three bases, and they can move freely between these bases easily to counter any attempt by alliance to steal one.

Trying to hold them as Alliance is much harder because the horde spawn right behind farm, which means farm is always going to be under siege, making it much more difficult to send help to BS and LM since farm is constantly in danger of being lost.

I would say 75% of the AB games I play are 3 to 2 games where horde have LM, BS, and Farm.
It's the only BG with such a blatant bias that doesn't have any changeable variables (like track direction switching in SSM) or can't be solved by simply adjusting strategy (like AV. horde never backcap, derp).

AB is without a doubt the most imbalanced battleground.
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90 Troll Mage
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06/22/2013 07:18 PMPosted by Yeps
Really the only strong strategy for Alliance in AB is to zerg LM, because GM is worthless and BS is way easier for horde to get to at the start.


DK with Path of Frost.

How do.
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100 Undead Rogue
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06/22/2013 07:51 PMPosted by Febreeze
Really the only strong strategy for Alliance in AB is to zerg LM, because GM is worthless and BS is way easier for horde to get to at the start.


DK with Path of Frost.

How do.


That would imply a map imbalance then.
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74 Troll Druid
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This post made me laugh because I've observed this frustrating phenomenon myself on both factions. Actually, I'd say I see Horde send an overwhelming amount to GM more often than I see Alliance do so, as many Horde know Alliance typically swarms LM at the start. A lot of Horde have a defeatist attitude about attempting to control LM and if we do control it, they will often give it up in order to defend GM.

The worst is when you have somebody in chat arguing about how GM is as good as all the other bases simply because it accrues the same amount of resources as the others. While that's true, every other base is easier to defend, and you cannot really observe any opportunities to capture another base from GM (without using something like mind vision or far sight) nor are you really able to see enemy movement to assist with calling INCs for other bases from GM.

I agree the map is slightly imbalanced-- Horde have an advantage obtaining BS and Ally have one getting to LM.
Edited by Catpower on 6/22/2013 8:50 PM PDT
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90 Night Elf Mage
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The alliance are very predictable. They send like their entire team to LM every game. Maybe thats why you lose, we know whats going to happen.


Yes and then we spend the rest of the BG trying to take farm and give up 1 or 2 other bases still trying to get farm. Alliance is Stupid in AB and every BG
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