Take Silvershard Mines out of RBG rotation.

100 Human Warrior
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I'm not sure why this is something that even requires thought. There's no point in keeping a BG where the side that gets Horde almost automatically wins.

Seriously just take it out until you fix it.
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37 Night Elf Druid
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lol
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90 Human Rogue
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I'm not sure why this is something that even requires thought. There's no point in keeping a BG where the side that gets Horde almost automatically wins.

Seriously just take it out until you fix it.

Saying Horde automatically wins is an exaggeration and makes for a poor post because of it. What you should have said is that there's no point in keeping a BG where it's noticeably easier for one faction to gain points than the other.
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90 Undead Warlock
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Saying Horde automatically wins is an exaggeration and makes for a poor post because of it. What you should have said is that there's no point in keeping a BG where it's noticeably easier for one faction to gain points than the other.


He said "almost"...and it's more-so almost true in Rated BGs. The fact that he said rated, and not random does show a lot. When it comes to experienced, skilled, equally geared teams..that extra couple hundred points is pretty important. Their supposed "fix" did nothing but guarantee lava is right close to capping when the gates open..
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90 Orc Death Knight
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Don't be stupid if you are alliance you should take Water and earth, let the horde take lava and stop them on the middle when they try to go to another car.

however if you are Horde you definetly go to lava then send almost everybody to earth.

at least that's what i use it works the most of the time. XD
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95 Human Paladin
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That's the problem.......Lava caps way faster than the other two giving Horde time to cap Lava and then zerg Earth before it caps.

Horde has a definite advantage. Carts should not start until gates open.
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100 Draenei Shaman
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If all ten horde players focus on the lava cart (which spawns RIGHT NEXT to their spawn point) they can win by only capping 1 cart.

The BG is completely skewed in horde favor. Really does need to be redesigned a bit. The lava cart shaft should be a bit longer so that is not a viable option.
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90 Undead Warlock
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If all ten horde players focus on the lava cart (which spawns RIGHT NEXT to their spawn point) they can win by only capping 1 cart.


This is not true. You can't win with just 1 cart the WHOLE time. It gives a good lead at the beginning though.
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91 Night Elf Hunter
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That BG still exists? *Checks list* Oh right it's blacklisted. >.>

Rated or Random, it's a terrible BG and could have been much better.
Edited by Mauklindaufe on 6/24/2013 4:45 PM PDT
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100 Human Warlock
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Is there ANY alliance who has NOT blacklisted it for randoms?
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92 Worgen Druid
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It's the devs way of paying you back for AV :P
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100 Draenei Priest
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It's the devs way of paying you back for AV :P


AV isn't in Rateds.

And if you cap lava the whole time, you need to cap 1-2 of the others to win. That's all. Just 1-2, plus lava the whole game, and you win.
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100 Night Elf Death Knight
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Is there ANY alliance who has NOT blacklisted it for randoms?


It's a small, fast-paced BG where individual contributions matter in a huge way, and whatever Horde bias exists in it would matter only if the teams are perfectly even in all other ways.

This doesn't happen in randoms. The thing where the Horde "can just control Lava and win" almost never occurs. Sometimes, the Horde control two carts - or all three carts. Sometimes, they can't even hold lava. Depends on the team.

The small size and fast pace means that you (you personally) can overcome the bias by being good at fighting people.

For randoms, I like it just fine. My win/loss for it is as good as it is for most of the BGs I do, and better than I get for some of them.
Edited by Sylassanna on 6/24/2013 9:07 PM PDT
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90 Undead Priest
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Nobody wins silvershard by controlling 1 cart. Stop lying.
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90 Undead Warlock
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And if you cap lava the whole time, you need to cap 1-2 of the others to win. That's all. Just 1-2, plus lava the whole game, and you win.


Actually was in a game where alliance controlled lava the whole game, we controlled north and water.. Can't remember final score though, but yea they were close to 1k I think? So, maybe completely controlling lava, and just getting a few other caps here or there may win it ;)
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
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using the switchboards to your team's advantage is hard
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90 Human Rogue
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using the switchboards to your team's advantage is hard

Switching the tracks at the beginning of the game is almost impossible.

It's the devs way of paying you back for AV :P

If AV were Rated, Horde would win it every time (if they try).
Edited by Esclamayshun on 6/25/2013 1:22 AM PDT
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