My opinion of best>>worst healers atm

95 Tauren Druid
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Monk
Pally
Priest
Druid
Shaman
bandage spec

thoughts?
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90 Troll Druid
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No
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95 Tauren Druid
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No


No what, that druids are that low IMO?

Ive practically only played my resto druid since T11- 2ish years now.

Ive seen and ive felt the changes to druids over the last 2 years. MoP has gimped druids down much much more than they have been for a long time. Sure, some odd occasions we get some kind of little change like shrooms, good they are, but still not my point.
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100 Tauren Druid
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Without context as to what content you are talking about, any list is useless.
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95 Tauren Druid
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raiding wise.
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90 Troll Druid
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No, because its not that simple. Each healer has their strengths and weaknesses and which healer is "best" depends on which fight it is. For example Druids do really well on fights that require lots of movement, while shamans are best at healing when the raid is stacked. Your list will change from fight to fight, it's not static.
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90 Pandaren Monk
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D Priest > Monk > Paladin > Druid > H Priest > Shaman
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95 Tauren Druid
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No, because its not that simple. Each healer has their strengths and weaknesses and which healer is "best" depends on which fight it is. For example Druids do really well on fights that require lots of movement, while shamans are best at healing when the raid is stacked. Your list will change from fight to fight, it's not static.


well yea, but im speaking in a general sense.
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100 Tauren Druid
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raiding wise.

How on earth is that context? Undergeared progression is different from farm nights, stacked fights are different from spread, mobile fights, and many fights have a "gimmick" that can be exploited by one class or another.

Might as well make a list of all healing spells best>worst.

Like I said, useless.
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90 Troll Druid
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07/02/2013 12:22 AMPosted by Pipikaula
raiding wise.

How on earth is that context? Undergeared progression is different from farm nights, stacked fights are different from spread, mobile fights, and many fights have a "gimmick" that can be exploited by one class or another.

Might as well make a list of all healing spells best>worst.

Like I said, useless.
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Disc priest = holy paladin > druid > monk > shaman

Disc priest and H paladins both provide absorbs. Druid provides the raw HPS but it can be controlled. Monk provides more raw HPS than the druid but it can't really be controlled. Shaman are just ?bad? right now.
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90 Night Elf Druid
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Blood DK.

Who cares about anyone else ;)?
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90 Draenei Shaman
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How exactly are you quantifying this? Shaman's aren't weak healers for example. A good portion of the problem comes from fights demanding the exact opposite of our strengths.

Are you measuring this by the healer toolkit? The way and what the fights currently demand? Healer throughput? Style of healing? Your experience playing different classes? Your experience being in groups with other classes and what you've observed?

As someone else pointed out, just saying in raids doesn't help. What raids, what bosses, what kind of content? Is the group geared to be there, barely geared, overgeared? Are you doing normal or heroics? What kind of setup are you running? How aware is the group in general? Do they constantly stand in stuff, are interrupts going out, are dispells timely and used at the correct moment? Do the tanks know what a cd is or are they just hitting attack buttons and hoping for the best?

Most of these kinds of lists are subjective to begin with unless a class is so totally broken that they just can't raid heal at all outside of a 5 man which is no healer at this point. Saying raid healing isn't a quantifier. Some guilds are still working on last tier, some current and some are done.
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95 Tauren Druid
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and again, im speaking in general

Im not gonna sit here and quantify 50 different point-of-views on each fight, each class, each part of the fight, and each talent selection.

this would be like asking some1 who plays the lottery to quantify how to pick their numbers in order to win. you just cant
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90 Night Elf Druid
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Which is precisely why it's pointless to try to rank healers :p
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90 Draenei Shaman
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and again, im speaking in general

Im not gonna sit here and quantify 50 different point-of-views on each fight, each class, each part of the fight, and each talent selection.

this would be like asking some1 who plays the lottery to quantify how to pick their numbers in order to win. you just cant


Exactly. So why bother? Different healers are going to be stronger or weaker on different fights in the same raid. You can't sit around and make lists proclaiming one healer is better then another in general because each fight is different.

Quite frankly it does get tiring seeing people ask for years for the 'best' healer or run around ranking healers. Or do the exact opposite, complaining how one healing class is OP and everything is crap. Especially if they only play one healing class or don't know people raiding content with different healers. Which is the point people are trying to make here, there are a lot of things for each boss fight that may make one healer shine over another.

Even with PvP, where certain healers have better toolkits to handle PvP better then others, that doesn't mean that the rest of them suck. A good portion of healing BG's goes down to skill and over coming whatever challenges may show up. Some may have a harder time then others but saying who's the best and whose the worse in general, outside of what I've already mentioned with a healer class being totally broken, doesn't do a whole lot outside of draw lines and pigeonhole people more.
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90 Pandaren Monk
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07/02/2013 12:35 AMPosted by Venomheart
druid > monk


lol no
Edited by Suplift on 7/2/2013 2:11 AM PDT
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90 Troll Druid
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The best healer classes are the ones who make sure no one dies while attempting or actually subduing large dragons and the occasional Murloc.
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90 Goblin Shaman
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Best or worst, I don't think it matters so long as the job gets done of the raid surviving...end of story.
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90 Human Paladin
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Worst is a strong word but this is my pov.

disc=mw=holy>druid=pally>shaman
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