Smart heals making healers dumber?

90 Troll Shaman
18930
09/08/2013 03:36 PMPosted by Tiriel
And, I never said that either. If you actually read instead of going into personal attack mode, you would see that the EXACT SAME PARAGRAPH you are throwing a hissy fit about says " They are more than made up for by the buffs to the raw healing of HST, HR, CH and HTT". It's OK though, carry on.


Throwing a hissy fit would be better defined by the post after post after post that you made previously complaining that HR did so much overhealing, only to be followed by post after post after post now complaining that HR is not overhealing.
No, it's not complaining about HR doing less overhealing; it's complaining about the impact that change has to things like Ascendance and Ancestral Guidance.
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100 Blood Elf Mage
17990
It is still a nerf to our utility, and not being able to reliably stack the buff on people inside a Healing Rain makes AV even less significant.


You previously took someone to task, I'm thinking it may have been Ceddya, for making that point about AV. If I'm not mistaken you said it was no big deal, and it was akin to Fort.
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90 Troll Shaman
18930
09/08/2013 03:55 PMPosted by Taymage
It is still a nerf to our utility, and not being able to reliably stack the buff on people inside a Healing Rain makes AV even less significant.


You previously took someone to task, I'm thinking it may have been Ceddya, for making that point about AV. If I'm not mistaken you said it was no big deal, and it was akin to Fort.


And I never said it was something that was very significant - which I just reiterated in the post you quoted (and conveniently snipped out of the quote). I think I was making the Fort comparison in response to people claiming AV is like an absorb shield. It's a buff, not an absorb shield, making it more like Fort than like say Divine Aegis.
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100 Blood Elf Mage
17990
fair enough
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90 Pandaren Priest
8345
hey, look on the bright side: in a way, shaman throughput has been moved away from healing rain
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90 Troll Shaman
18930
hey, look on the bright side: in a way, shaman throughput has been moved away from healing rain


Shaman are significantly buffed over where they are on live. We are probably 20-30% stronger overall. The big question will be how our stack healing performs. The 5.4 changes have really buffed spread healing more than stacked healing in a way, and the HR change just reinforces that. As long as you can get 6 people in a Healing Rain, there is very little difference between how we perform on a spread fight vs a stacked fight.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
14460
No, because smart heals can't clutch heal a tank or dps about to die.

Last thing I would ever use when someone is about to eat it is a "smart" heal.
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100 Night Elf Druid
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09/10/2013 11:05 PMPosted by Vishtara
No, because smart heals can't clutch heal a tank or dps about to die.


Why not? Wouldn't the person about to die normally be the one with the lowest %HP?
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90 Pandaren Priest
8345
09/11/2013 07:28 AMPosted by Calonderiel
No, because smart heals can't clutch heal a tank or dps about to die.


Why not? Wouldn't the person about to die normally be the one with the lowest %HP?


not necessarily, see h horridon berserk right after a dire call
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90 Human Priest
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not necessarily, see h horridon berserk right after a dire call


good example, but you shouldn't be smart healing there, you should be spamming the tanks and letting passive healing get the raid back up. you have a whole minute ;)
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