Contemplation of Chi-Ji

90 Night Elf Druid
10265
Is my math off, or does Contemplation of Chi-Ji return less mana than Soothing Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault?

Contemplation of Chi-Ji gives 12423 mana over 15 seconds with a 1.5 minute cool down for 24846 mana over 3 minutes
Soothing Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault gives 29850 mana instantly with a 3 minute cool down
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90 Night Elf Druid
14840
8924 spirit (max upgrade level) is equal ~4200 mana returns every 5 secs. So 12.6k mana every 90 secs.

Soothing Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault returns 32,118 at its max upgrade level @ 180 secs.

So, ~25.2k mana returns @ 180 sec compared to 32,118. You would also gain 204 intellect.
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Isle items are considerably underbudget for their ilvl, which is intended given how easy they are to come by. The Shado-Pan and LFR ToT trinkets are likely to be ahead of the Isle trinkets, but they are still an ok option for alts who haven't got trinkets.
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90 Gnome Monk
9090
I enjoy the trinket. It might be under-budgeted but it was still an upgrade for me (I was using a 463 trinket.) Plus, Chi-Ji is my favorite celestial.

But when I can get the Shado-pan assault trinket I will probably upgrade.
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90 Tauren Druid
18155
For the classes who have regen mechanics based on Spirit (such as Healing Tide Totem and now Innervate), you can macro the on-use of the Chi-Ji trinket with those for a small, additional boost.
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90 Troll Shaman
18930
For the classes who have regen mechanics based on Spirit (such as Healing Tide Totem and now Innervate), you can macro the on-use of the Chi-Ji trinket with those for a small, additional boost.


Wrong. It's a temporary Spirit gain, and temporary on use/proc Spirit gains do not increase the Spirit based mana regen from MTT, Rapture, Innervate or Divine Plea. Only static Spirit (or permanent Spirit proc trinkets like DMC: Tsunami) scales those type of abilities up.

As far as the Chi Ji trinket, the extra INT makes up for the the reduced regen in a lot of cases. I also think that this trinket is better than heroic Lightning Imbued Chalice. The Lei Shen trinket's proc is really underwhelming, generally around a 1% output gain. The 1487 effective Spirit gain from Contemplation of Chi Ji lets you drop Spirit for a throughput stat, and 1487 more of a secondary stat will almost certainly give you more than a 1% output gain.
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90 Tauren Druid
18155
Ah, I had heard Innervate was working with temporary buffs on the PTR, and since I didn't do PTR, didn't realize they changed that. Makes sense, though.
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