Get this, I have spent years trying to get a Grandfather thru drops and trade but to no avail. I was able to get 3 Enigma, 1 Windforce and some others thru trades and drop....got a Chain of Honor, Fortitude thru Runwords. Than about 3 weeks ago i was playing Diablo 3 and lo and behold a Legendary sword drop.. I unid it and waiting for that 5 seconds for the bar to complete and mouth forming by the mouth, I unid a Grandfather Sword of all thing in D3....... And it sucks! a sword with with sub par stats worth no more than 600,00 gold man That just made me feel so down getting a Gf in D3 that was worthless in every way. I guess i can use it to swat a fly. Well back to D2 Lod for the real Grandfather even if it takes me another 3 years!!! or so D2 lod still worth playing for it's satisfaction that comes with it.