02/06/2013 06:28 PMPosted by LocoMagicThey've already nerfed them once
Lol the Jay Wilson "I love my barb NO TOUCHIE" nerf. I heard the new director won't play a barb. Nervous?
02/06/2013 06:52 PMPosted by OsterusJust because Barbs have great passives, can roll HIGHEST ALL RESIST OUT OF 3 SET PIECES AND UP TO 200 STRENGTH on their items, does not mean they are OP.
02/06/2013 07:57 PMPosted by ForelleJust because Barbs have great passives, can roll HIGHEST ALL RESIST OUT OF 3 SET PIECES AND UP TO 200 STRENGTH on their items, does not mean they are OP.
Actually, isn't it the monk who can get highest all resist stacking all resist and another elemental resist with OWE? ;)
02/06/2013 08:27 PMPosted by HTOLogicCertainly, if the DH couldn't kite as easily, and wasn't such a dps cannon then maybe I could see some validity to what a few of you claim.
02/06/2013 09:56 PMPosted by xxBarabbasxxNot complaining. Simply having a discussion with the community, which some of you guys don't seem to understand. But yes, gloom is a must.
Well if you are not complaining than the comment wasn't intended for you... It was intended for those who are complaining. Not sure why you would get defensive if you weren't complaining to begin with. Just seems like a odd to do.
Tired of these threads, If you take away the life leech and defense of a barb then he's nothing. The problem is not the Barb, the real problem is the crappy budget gear you guys have available for your classes, complain about that and less about the Barb.
Are you serious? A cm wizard can do the exact same thing. Mp10 isn't efficient for you, nor I, and I have over double your dps. Honestly I don't like barbs atm. WW build is the most efficient farming build (xp wise) by a LONG shot. Quite frankly I hate not being able to use any other build and get t half the xp per hour.02/04/2013 10:02 PMPosted by bearrAs for my barb, I didn't put much gold on it, not more than 10mil for sure. And I can farm MP8 easily with a rend build. I tried MP10, just to see, and I killed the first pack I saw without dying.
Certainly, if the DH couldn't kite as easily, and wasn't such a dps cannon then maybe I could see some validity to what a few of you claim.
I have no problem with kiting. I kind of like it, and DH is my main class. But my point is that it costs so much to have a lot of dps with a DH compared to a barb. DH have steady aim, which gives 20%. Battle rage can give 30% for the barb. Weapon master and Archery are pretty much the same. The barb can have bonus of 5% crit chance and 50% crit, plus the 24% of bash, plus WotB. Just with this, it gives way more dps than a DH can have.
Because of all that, I don't think DH are such dps cannon. Yes, you can have marked for death, and cull the weak, but it's not always optimal and easy to keep up marked, or to slow enemies constantly, plus keeping at least 10 yards for steady aim to work. It's more difficult to kite in higher MPs because mobs take longer to die. It's possible to do so, but it would cost so much. With my 50mil DH or something like that, I have the minimum resists and can work between 115 and 150k dps depending on the gear, with steady aim and without cull the weak and marked for death (with my SOJ, which seems to lower my dps, but actually increases it against elites).
But with a barb, you can achieve all that for just 10mil it seems. That's the gap that got me wondering.
Several people have pointed out that survivability is one of the core traits of the class... Barbs and monks get a 30% defensive bonus for this reason.
By the same logic, ranged should do more damage, correct? Who has the fastest azmodan kill times? Far and away the barb... other classes don't even come close. If barbs are naturally very tanky, shouldn't DH/wizard be able to out-gun them?
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