Dropping Serenity has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you use OwE. These are two completely separate things. For example, I am still using OwE, but I have done my last 4 MP 10 uber runs without Serenity. The only time I died was when I had EP on ZK and he died, and the damage from the explosion hit SB and 1 shotted me.
Actually it does. If you're wasting (yes wasting) item affixes double stacking resists where you could be getting vitality or life % (thus furthering your EHP) you (relatively, not specifically) could drop Serenity too and free up yet another skill slot.
Well, since I've already dropped Serenity, your point in this argument is basically moot, but I'm curious how you think I would gain EH by dropping OwE. Everyone acknowledges that vit is the better roll on Inna's, yet I'd have to drop that to get AR. I'd lose health there just to pick it up on Boots and Shoulders (would I even gain any in that scenario?)... except I CAN ALREADY DO THAT. I just can't afford to.
Seriously. You have 500 AR. If I dropped my double stacked resists, I would also have 500. This means that I can drop them, pick up Vit/Dex/Life% RIGHT NOW, without dropping OwE.
I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept.
Basically what it comes down to, is that you seem to claim it costs 1B for you to make the switch.
Yes, I think it would cost roughly that much to switch to OwE without losing any paper DPS and even at that figure it would cost me EH. I have looked in the AH to verify this, but it's just a ballpark number because some items (Amulet, Nats ring) weren't even in the AH.
I showed that using our current builds (well mine from yesterday, I was just playing around last night before I logged, don't mind HoL) the difference buffed is ~35k dps and ~93k ehp. Firstly, I think with the RD nerf we can both agree we've both got enough ehp for mp10, dps is what we're both lacking (me moreso, obviously).
The difference with wholly different builds is ~35k dps. The difference when your argument isn't centered on me using a build that skews the way you want it to is 90k without factoring in FitL and 160k if you do.
You have an additional 16% damage from your spec over me. And that's only if we're playing in groups. If we compare solo damage, you lose that. And while YOU always play grouped, I do not. So in a scenario where I am playing by myself your spec gains nothing because Guiding Light is no longer helpful.
Secondly, I'm confused how you think spending ~900m gold to get ~35k dps is a bad deal? I'm sure if I had that much I could surpass your edps. I'm not sure why you're using FitL for your dps figures either, as snapshotting is getting removed today. We're basically talking buffed pdps here.
Good grief man, my gear right now did not cost 900 million. I said it would cost that much to get equivalent gear with AR.
Look, you can continue to postulate all you want and point out that your gear was far less expensive than mine. That's cool. Congratulations. I can build a 100k dps set for under 15 million and then I can point out how much money you wasted too. But that doesn't prove anything for anyone.
We aren't getting anywhere with this conversation. If you really think it is cheaper for me to gear without OwE, please do some research in the AH and post your results. Use D3up or whatever you want to find a set of gear in the AH that has 170k dps or greater and 625k EH or greater. If you don't do this before I have an opportunity to do it myself, I'll do it.
Shoot, you can do it for any set of numbers you want in addition! 125k/450k. 150k/500. Whatever, you pick the numbers.
Prove me wrong instead of just telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about.