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Sep 21 Crusader Compendium: Guides, Builds, & Info ⛨ UPDATED FOR PATCH 2.6.1 ⛨ ... Welcome! This is a reference work created by the Crusader community. Its purpose is to provide a useful resource for players, especially those who are new to the Crusader class. If you're looking for detailed guides, information on skill mechanics, or engaging gameplay streams, you'll find them all in the links below. You can help improve the compendium by posting your own suggestions for what I should include. If any of the guides I've linked seem outdated or irrelevant, please let me know about that as well. Thanks for your support, and stay in the Light. Need some help with your Season 15 Journey? Check out Bagstone's tracker and Angry's list of Crusader builds: ... 1. BEGINNER GUIDES & SET DUNGEONS: 2. CRUSADER BUILDS: 3. ITEMS, GEMS, CRAFTING & COSMETICS: 4. GAME MECHANICS: 5. CRUSADER SKILL MECHANICS: 6. STREAMS & GAMEPLAY VIDEOS: 7. COMMUNITY RESOURCES: 8. PATCH NOTES: 9. FIRST DISCUSSION POST: Sep 21
15h thorn invoke guide help I need a good a guide for thorn invoker build anyone have one?WJmonego17 15h
21h Make a viable Phalanx build for crusaders hi fellas im a crusade big fan, and I've realized that the crusader could have a viable Phalanx build, and thats could be really cool (like the necromancer rathma pet build),so and I've seen that there are several objects, that with a small increase in power could bring back the King leonidas to the game for example: (the bold letters are my own changes, but they may vary) 1-Eternal Union (Legendary Ring): increases the duration and damage by 200% for Bowmen and Bodyguard runes. 2-Unrelenting Phalanx (Legendary Crusader Shield): increases damage by 450-600%, and casts Phalanx twice per use, either summons twice as many Avatars of the Order, or just summons two waves with a brief delay. 3-Warhelm of Kassar (Legendary Helm): reduces the cooldown and increases the damage of Phalanx by 45-60%. (maybe 150-200% like Mask of Jeram) 4- Baleful Remnant should benefit from runes aswell benefit from Eternal Union and Unrelenting Phalanx (with a little fix ofc). Also Tasker and Theo, Enforcer and could benefit from it, and this will increase the diversity of the crusader and bring back a very fun pet build for saders. THANKSSchyzo26 21h
1d Gonna start my first ever season character Never played thru season, I already have a level 70 crusader but it’s not season. What’s a good build to use while I’m leveling to 70? Thanks. Gonna use rolands sweep attack build after. Also, what other stuff do you get from seasons? I play on console.GoosePants2 1d
2d Best build for grouping? Just wondering if this was listed anywhere? I couldn't find it when I looked, and specifically which build and why.Rasalom7 2d
2d Remove Akarats Champion MORPH! Everyone hates it. All those cool transmogs and you're stuck as the same green hulk everyone else is. Remove the morph and just make everyone grow in size when in Akarat form! Or at least make the hulk wear our transmogs.SooSaucy22 2d
3d Crusader build Hi Guys, Need your help, how can i make my Crusader better? Thank you.AirFerrari2 3d
4d talisman of akkhan Confused which 1 better Primal %dmg .100 chdc .10 chc Or normal legendary 16%holy 95 chd 8 chcDeathstar1 4d
5d which strongarm is better? which strongarm is better? 6% crit & 20% knockback or 5% crit & 29% knockback rest of the stats are similar.Armisal2 5d
5d Season 15 BEST CRUSADER BUILDS VIDEO: ---- Season 15 is almost there so here's a complete breakdown and overview for ALL BEST possible Crusader Builds out there. I went through all of them during PTR, both old and new, and trust me, this season will be glorious for all Crusaders out there. If you never played the class, never tried Condemn of Holy Shotgun, Sweeper or Thorns, now is the time. I think that crusader might have the most diverse build variety out there with nearly every build reaching GR100 and above. All builds here, as usual: ----- ----- 1) Roland's Blazing/Lightning Sweeper GR100+ --------- 2) Holy Hammerdin GR100+ --------- 3) Thorns of the Invoker GR100+ --------- 4) Akkhan Condemn GR100+ --------- 5) Akkhan Blessed Shield GR100+ --------- 6) Akkhan Holy Machinegun GR100+ --------- 7) Akkhan Invoker V2.0 “MELEE BOMBER” GR100+ For speedfarming i think Condemn might be the best this season, and i also developed my own build for this, check it out: ---- ---- Reliable 2-3 mins clears gathering all legs and DBs with under 2 mill dps. Pretty damn good. Norvald is just as viable as before, even better: 5d
6d Condemn Damage on Condemn Sader Gear Hi there. I'm having a fair amount of fun with my Condemn Crusader, but I am curious and perhaps a bit in disbelief here... So, here's my question: Are there typically only 3 types of armor that have a chance at "Condemn Damage" within the rolls? From what I'd seen in my build, the only pieces I can identify that have this option are the Shoulders, Chest Armor,and Crusader Shield. Can someone please let me know if this is indeed the case, or not? And, if so... Why? Thanks.LadyKendra3 6d
6d Trying to roll cdr off my shield So, I'm trying to take thr cdr off my sheild for condemn dmg %. Is it worth the hassle for the extra condemn dmg?killuchen4 6d
Nov 1 Frydehr's Wrath Condemn vs CHC? Hello all! On my seasonal Sader, my sheet damage is as follows: CHC = 55% CHD = 420% CDR = 56% Holy = 20% Condemn = 25% Condemn damage on shield 800% paragon / 1473.. Ive been playing this toon for about 3 weeks now I think, about ruffly 10hrs a day On my shield (which I am struggling to find a good one) I dont know if I should add CHC 10% or go for Increase Condemn damage 15? Its currently CHC@ 9.5. I am clearing GR95 in 5-6 minutes / best GR clear 101. I'm trying to get to the 105 clear if I can... soooo, condemn @ 15% or keep the 9.5 CHC? Which is better going forward? Thanks! Clay **Edit** I just cleared a 102 just now, had 30 secs left :P **Edit Edit** Ok, i went ahead and put Condemn damage on my shield $ 15% / My sheet damage went from 3.2 - 2.8million CHC is now 46% CHD (same) Condemn is now 40% still not sure if Im noticing a difference yet, but, its only been a few GR runs. I guess I need to feel "good" about the choice, but I am unsure as to which has more of an impact? CHC or increase condemn damage? Please help!jeXus6 Nov 1
Oct 31 Really need help to learn how to play Condemn I am a new player to Diablo 3 and have only pushed ~700 paragon levels this season. When reading up on posts online and builds, most people claim Condemn is the best build to play, when comparing Thorn (Invoker) and Condemn (Akkhan). I have pushed to around GR 80 as Thorns, only having 3 ancient items (I might be able to push even further). However, I have gathered full Akkhan and, according ti Rhykkers Condemn guide, I have 5 ancient items for his build, but I can't even kill 30 enemies in T13 normal rift without dying (again - compare to Thorns where I clear GR80 by myself). What am I doing wrong? I am doing my best to follow guides online (read up on Icy Veins & seen Rhykkers movies). I am greatful for all helpBolp23 Oct 31
Oct 30 CapAmerica Towering Shield x Hold Your Ground I have a question about the Captain America build. 1 - The Blessed Shield skill gives a 250% of your Block Chance as holy damage. So if you have 50% of Block chance, you'll get (250% of 50%) 125% extra holy damage. Is this correct? 2 - If so, what is more damage effective: Towering Shield (gives +20% Blessed Shield Damage) or Hold Your Ground (gives +30% Block Chance, also, no dodge)? The bonus damage Blessed Shield gives based on Block Chance would get something like 250% of 30% = 75% ? And the extra block chance would compensate the loss of dodge? (I use Gogok) 3 - My current shield has 20% block chance natural. I use a Convetion of Elements in slot and Unity in the cube. But my CoE extra damage is far lower than it's maximum 200% extra bonus. And since rolling a good Unity seems pretty hard, I'm thinking if a good rolled Justuice Lantern in slot and CoE in the cube woukld get me a little more damage. Even with some decrease in thoughtness. Any advice on this? Or any ideas on how to measure theese differences? Thanks in advance for the atention.Chupanza6 Oct 30
Oct 29 Crusader's Rolands Sweep Attack Does anyone have some good pointers on how to run this build. It appears to be mostly close in melee, with sweep attack and shield bash. I generally run a wave of light monk that does no good melee damage, but one shots most everything with the on target wave of light. How do I get some good area damage with the Roland's build?Avalon24 Oct 29
Oct 29 Got wrath problems? So I see this often crusaders complaining about wrath I got around this issue pretty easy. I run with 10 wrath/second regen 165max wrath 1) Wrath solutions (crusader has passive 2.5 per sec baseline) a) 4/sec wrath on 2handed weapon b) 2/sec wrath crusader shiedl c) Templar(follower) passive 1.8 per sec. This gives you just about 10 per sec wrath just running around not even attacking d) skills -every time you use champion of akarat yorue wrath generation/regenation doubles so that 10/sec becomes 20sec and if you took righteousness then you get 16 per hit with any basic attack righteonss gives + 30 max wrath shield and weapon can give you a total of about 15 and I get right now 18 from paragon you can get 25 max there. Why is this important? because as you run from pack to pack and start fights a higher pool means longer it takes for it to deplete and more can be regened as you just run from one spot to another this makes a HUGE difference try fighting with 100 max wrath and then try with 165 for example HUGE!. Now if you add provoke to this 30 wrath/20 sec you can start fight with 165 as soon as you use 30-40 wrath use provoke youre back to full chances are you will have it back up by the time you deplete youre wrath poolmeaning that that 165 max wrath ends up having extra 60wrath just from provoke + youre 10/per sec regen which each thing helps each other. EDIT: provoke adds additional wrath for each enemy around you so if you have a bounch of enemies around you its instant full bar of WRATH! But there is more if you use law of valor aura with unstople force which gives you 50% wrath cost and long arm of the law passive making it last 10 sec means u got 50% lower wrath cost or 10 sec. If you complete provoke + akarat + unstopple force active I can spam like 30 heavens fury in a row. Now add to all of this some cost reduction/cooldown reductina and each stat gets exponentially better!!!! But you say you cant get a good weapon with regen and good shield with regen??? just craft it i crafted both of mine the lvl 12 formulas that you get and their MAD CHEAP and just keep making them until you get decent stats and add a socket on weap and youre good to go. Eventho youre sheet dps might be lower then with a 2800 2hander quess what sheet dps dosent mean much its how much actual damage you can do. NOW BONUS!? combine this wrath regen with wrathfull and all that wrath used healing you for fuks load! and yea my spelling sux i rly don't care ... not my lang anyway.Zmora36 Oct 29
Oct 27 Can you think of a tyrael build? I want to play a crusader that mimics the archangels. We got the laws, we got the skills from the cutscenes (or hots), and we got the looks if you got the wings. Can you think of a build? For tyrael I’ve been doing falling sword and any sword or justice themed skills, but hots makes me think I should be using smite?LupusRufus0 Oct 27
Oct 25 Boss Mode Conquest Solo I am trying to do the conquest solo with my LoN Bomb char. (P600). With three attempts so far, I managed to do just under 22 minutes. I had luck with Adria bounty quest as well as one other boss quest. not sure which one. My question is, has anyone tried this with a similar build and succeed? For my runs, I use Swiftmount, Warzechian armguards and Wreath of lighning gem for speed boost while in horse mode. As soon as my horse dropped, I instantly pop it again since the cooldown ended ( 60% CDR on my items) Thanks.Hiker12 Oct 25
Oct 25 Not very advanced Condemn, need advice. Hi. First thing - im Euro boy and my eng is not very tempting. Long story short - im playing NS euro Crusader just few weeks, all i care is my solo personal best. My Blondie is pretty strong, she cleard's 114 in not bad time. Problem is - im low paragon player, i mostly playing solo and i hate exp meta/rats, i wanna stay lonely :) so my paragon will be still around 2,5k. I already know how to condemn them and stay safe, i know where i can survive and i think im not bad with rotations (coe/generator hit/pot/skills). Thing i wanna ask u - PRO CRUSADERS :) is - what part from my eq should be upgraded now? If any nice soul can check my gear and give me advice - what to upgrade? what to reroll? what to change for best impact. Atm im working at 115 and its totaly in my range, but i guess ill hit soon paragon barier and due to my low paragon it will be hard to push more. Thats why i wanna have strong gear. If u see any flawed rolls / gear parts - let me know. I play her very short and dont have expierience / knowledge except few videos from utube. Thanks in advance.Red8 Oct 25
Oct 25 Instead of unity? Hi all, quick question - what's instead of unity is recommended? I trying to play without follower. I saw that people using Convention to elements, something else worth to check? Regards, Jacek PS - EU serversNightRaven3 Oct 25
Oct 24 CDR on Frydehr's shield worth it? I got a decent ancient Frydehr's: 941 Str 926 Vit % Vit (I rerolled to 8% CDR) 12% condemn dmg +10 wrath 798 condemn damage bonus I'd love to roll the CDR off for 10% crit, but that puts me under 56% CDR. I know that I need higher (max) CDR on my Furnace and Focus ring to do that. But what do you all do? Do you go for CDR on rings? Is it optimum to not have CDR on shield?Lobsterbash5 Oct 24
Oct 19 Help with Frydehr's In a moment of weakness, Kadala gave me a Primal Frydehr's. I can put either 10 crit or 15 condemn damage on it. Which is better? I'm currently using 10 crit but it should be easy enough to reroll to 15 condemn damage. BTW, she begged me to give it back to her, I laughed hearty right in her face. She vowed a terrible revenge and I'm sure she'll make good on it. But I don't care.Caracal6 Oct 19
Oct 18 Question: Frydehr's Wrath, Normal vs. Ancient This screenshot shows what I have equipped (Normal Legendary), and what I could equip (Ancient Legendary) -- the Condemn damage on the normal one is so much better, but the Ancient has a lot more Strength, as well as some CDR, which I still need. I have no idea which is better! Halp!Auturgist3 Oct 18
Oct 17 Attributes Page - D3 Planner Ok, I am trying my best to get the best stats possible for my sader/condemn build. This is the page that I am following - - My question is, if I get my numbers (not exact) but close to what is shown on the page, will this make my Sader a true killer? my CHC/CHD is close to what is shown (it is a 1:10 ration) my condemn is 43% / CDR 56% / Area Dam 50% / I am lacking in Holy Damage at 20% / Attack speed Increase 25% / attack per sec 1.25 I can only clear a GR 92 (oh btw, I just made this toon a few days ago with 33hrs play time) Paragon 1259 - Main toons are Necro Pestilence and Demon Hunter UE What else can I do? I really thought I would be hammering GR's in the 100-105 with these stats? Am I missing anything? My profile is JeXuS #11562 and its the seasonal Sader named Crusher... please take a look and tell me what needs to happen. More than likely, regardless of what is said here, I will continue to grind hard.. thanks for the help guys!jeXus2 Oct 17
Oct 12 Condemn build - Akkhan's Addendum vs Furnace I see some people using Akkhan's Addendum (AA) instead of furnace, either because it rolled better for them or it's their preference. In looking at possibility of having 3 Akarat Champion runes active at all times, I admit that looks very attractive. I have a difficult time staying alive on my highest GRs, so the prospect of having the prophet rune (+150% armor) so I can use CoE instead of unity sounds like a better trade off than using Furnace with unity. Has anyone experimented with these two options to see what seemed better for them? Also, I was wondering what 3rd rune would be better to use with AA. Hasteful (15% IAS) seems useful, but does IAS actually factor into condemn damage? I could also see Rally (12 second cooldown when AC is activated) being useful for making iron skin and your law nearly permanently active. Thoughts?Lobsterbash11 Oct 12
Oct 12 Dang Crusader is a difficult class to gear I played a LoN thorns bombard build way back in like season 7 or something, and it took 2 months of trying to get needed rolls on ancients before I finally threw in the towel. Over paragon 1,000 was achieved, entirely solo, in the pursuit. Damn you, lidless wall!!! So I'm playing crusader again this season (condemn of course), and yep, same thing. That shield, that amulet, that weapon. It's like the LoN arrangement, but instead of trashing godly items that didn't allow for thorns, it's trashing godly items that didn't allow for cooldown. Just wanted to vent, but say that despite the difficulty of gearing, at least this class is worth it. Just imagine if it were this difficult to find gear for a class that under performs.Lobsterbash4 Oct 12
Oct 9 Akarat's Champion Gap Cooldown Hi All, I'm new in Crusader, and just wondering if there is other way to "up" the Akarats Champion skill without delay? I have like 56% cooldown-reduce, but still it has this gap to activate again... :( And that's always my weakpoint and died in the middle of a battle. Thanks! ^^GUTS7 Oct 9
Oct 7 +condemn on shoulders vs. BoP, Frydehr’s So, is +15% condemn on shoulders/chest more meaningful than the +condemn damage on Blade of Prophecy/Frydehr’s Wrath? i.e., is it handled differently by the game in terms of how raw DPS on the skill is calculated? I had a hard time finding any info on this...Thanks for any info you can provide.Cartman25464 Oct 7
Oct 5 Which stat should I reroll? Back from a longer break and now I got this beauty on my Condemn Crusader: Now I need your help to decide which stat I will reroll. Thinking about getting the CDR up to 10% but I want to make sure so I don't screw it up.KNIGHTHOOD3 Oct 5
Oct 4 Casting condemn I have recently started a condemn crusader build. What is the best way to cast condemn for optimal damage. I’ve assigned to the keyboard, the numpad/binding it to numlock for autocast, and assigning it to the mouse holding the button and using the wheel for force move for an autocast like action. Some help would be appreciatedSITH137 Oct 4
Oct 4 Help please The first crusader I made a long time ago was done on normal. Now I am trying to dig deeper into the game via a seasonal crusader. Things were going well until I hit the level 50ish range. The difficulty is set to master. I do not want to go down a difficulty, which leaves finding the problem and solving it. I believe its got to do with my spec choices. I use slash, Iron skin, Steed charge, Laws of valor, Fist of heavens and falling sword. Steed charge I use Nightmare. Answered prayer for laws of valor. I use falling sword super heated. Runes are guard on slash. Divine well for fist of the heavens. I use flash for iron skin My passive are Fervor, Holy Cause, Iron Maiden, and another one I can not remember. Currently using just a two handed sword to maximize damage. So my issues are my health is having a tough time staying up. Also taking too long to kill certain things. Lastly dealing wtih with rotating laser beam, that elites and up love to spawn in mass amounts. On the gems end I am never looting red ones to increase my strength it never happens now. When I first started my crusader I got gems from all the colors now I never see red any more. Enchanting is becoming insanely expensive, now its telling me I need a level 12 enchanting area to enchant a item. Please understand I am not a diablo veteran to the point I know all the jarggin used. So please do not use a abbreviation. Any help would be greatly appreciated. One last note if I can do high amounts of damage with a just a one handed flail and shield that would be great. Though I dont think you can do that, just guessing on that point. Hence the two handed sword.OldJB24 Oct 4
Oct 2 Condemn-Reciprocate build I had no idea this existed until I looked at the #1 non-season normal crusader GR spot. Nowhere in the skill description is it stated that Reciprocate is a fire skill, yet apparently it is AND it must work with +% fire damage and Cindercoat (30% reduced resource for fire skills). How the hell did people figure this out? I find this build hilarious and gimmicky, kind of like all the very tip-top builds. It's like the thorns build we wanted, except without any thorns.Lobsterbash8 Oct 2
Oct 1 Need some advice for hard pushing. WITH MY GEAR AND PARAGON. WHICH GR would be my limit ? I'd seen a guy pushing 110 with 1k5 para only with few decent gear , but last night i was struggling at 109TheHuang5 Oct 1
Sep 28 what to gamble next? This is my Condemn sader: what would you suggest I gamble next? I've been hitting up Kadala for an Ancient Frydehr's, but I feel like getting the right rolls on a shield is such a massive crapshoot that I'm tempted to start gambling for ancient F & R instead. Most of my other gear is pretty solid...I am also working on forging a new Furnace with better elite dmg%, but gambling on that isn't efficient IMO. I also still need to Caldesann my amulet, but I'm working on gemming up for that. Feedback appreciated. Thanks in advance.Cartman254616 Sep 28
Sep 28 Question re: Resistance + damage reduction... Okay, so here's what's up: I currently have a ring, Justice Lantern, that grants damage reduction equal to 46% of my Block Chance, which is at 67% thanks to items and Hold Your Ground. 46% of 67 is 30.82. When I look under my Details, in the Defense section, my Cold Resistance is 846, and if I hover over that with my mouse, the tooltip reads "Reduces Cold damage from level 70 enemies by 70.75% + 30.81%." So, I'm assuming the damage reduction from Justice Lantern is being added on top of the individual resistances I have already... which leads me to my question: is it possible to attain 100% resistance/damage reduction with this kind of build? Because I was considering equipping Unity on both my character and my Templar, who cannot be killed, but I feel like that might actually be weaker mitigation than what I'm doing right now. (Although, I suppose I could cube the Unity ability and make use of both just to ensure there's no way in hell anything ever kills me...)Auturgist2 Sep 28
Sep 24 Season 15 gambling Hey guys, I searched through a few videos and didn't find one covering what you should spend your challenge rift shards on at level 1. I'm also curious once you hit 70 what you would prioritize gambling on at that point? Thanks for the info.Deviator4 Sep 24
Sep 24 Rift guardian kill ... takes forever I'm new to the crusader, trying a Condemn build (on "Alexa") ... given her mediocre gear, I'm not too surprised she struggles after GR90. But the RG is usually a long, drawn out battle. I tend to keep close to refresh the Focus/Restraint buff, but death comes early and often. Am I missing a better strategy here? Or is it just a matter of gearing up?Greer7 Sep 24
Sep 21 Are there any Holy Shotgun builds in multi? I saw some youtube vid of a Shotgun sader as RGK finishing rank#1 in 3-man EU. Anyone have a link to the build? The stickied build post has a bunch of outdated builds, most of which are no longer viable. Thanks in advance!Cartman254611 Sep 21
Sep 20 YAY for 2K!!! What a grueling and challengingly frustrating yet rewarding experience. Persistence pays, as I was able to mix it up enough between group and solo play to gain 2000 paragons this season, the most I've ever attained and the second to last seasonal goal. The only goal left is to give it my all and see how far on can push on an AD spec more than 50%. Just thought I would share my relief and gratitude with everyone. I didnt get but 1 useable primal Set item (but x2 Akkhan chest armor pieces), but scored some luck on some quad shoulders and an AD weapon for 92% overall AD. I've never really pushed the LBs with mroe than 50% so hopefully it will be rewarding and not disappointing. Only thing left to do is a last push on the LBs. Good Luck to all in the last week of the season! :DKingArthur4 Sep 20
Sep 19 S15 as Sader What Kadala drop U looking 4? This will be my first Season starting a Sader, normally I'm a Monk or Witch Doctor. Next Friday, September 21st 8pm Eastern, I'll have the CR done then once in town try to get Kadala to drop one of these two as a lvl 1 sader starting out: 1 Hand Flail - Johanna's Argument or Crusader Shield - Guard of Johanna (not sure yet what I'll hit Kadala for.) Both of which drop at lvl 1 from Kadala. What are the other Sader peeps doing in their Kadala after CR?AdiPurusa4 Sep 19
Sep 19 [Guide] Roland Sweep Attack for gr110+ edit 27/01/2018 - Reworked it for patch 2.6.1 changes. Added some informations as well as a d3planner link and a grift 115 clear. edit 03/06/2017 - added fire DoT mechanics, boss informations... Hello guys. First of all, the tl;dr d3planner link is at the end of this post. Feel free to skip to it, but do not ask any question unless you read everything else here. As you may or may not know, I am an avid Roland Sweep attack (SA) player. I recently cleared gr115 (see at the end for video), so I thought I would a make a guide on how to gear, what to look for and how to play the grifts. Until some time ago I was advising playing the lightning rune for any kind of push, however I after trying the fire rune instead it turned out to be much better. While still being tanky, you output so much more damage that it's no question which one should be used. I will start by going over the skills, then the gear and stats needed on each piece, and finally I will explain some of the mechanics you should be aware of. But first, I want to be clear : this is a guide on the build I pushed with. You can go for different skills and especially different gems/stats on gear but that would not be the same build as mine then. I focus on having the highest attack speed breakpoint possible for SA (~4.82) and that requires specific rolls on gear. It is not simple to gear for and you might want to check some other builds for more lenient gear specifications. 1/ Skills Unlike some builds where the skills are set and nothing can change, SA offers quite a bit of diversity on skill you want to use. The mandatory ones are : - Sweep attack (Fire) - Iron Skin (Flash rune) - Akkarat's champion (Prophet) - Laws of Valor (Unstoppable force) You cannot do without those. Now the two other skills I settled for are : - Condemn (vacuum) - This one is IMO also mandatory but feel free to try some other skills like Judgement if you don't feel like you need to group mobs better - Steed charge (Draw & quarter) - This is the most controversial choice. But in the end, being able to drag an elite to a place I like and just the ability to skip maps fairly fast outweights the other possibilities available such as provoke (wrath regen against the boss) or judgement (bit more damage). Passives : - Heavenly strength - With the new weapon effect on the golden flense, you might ask yourself : "but why aren't we using a 1-H". Well, as it turns out, gaining 20% (additive) damage but losing roughly 80% (multiplicative) damage, not so great. Of course, in other builds the attack speed from a 1-H matters and counters the damage loss. Here, we already have max attack speed breakpoint so it doesn't. So we use a 2-H, and that's all. - Finery - 15% (multiplicative) damage and 10% armor for free. - Indestructible - You are very tanky once every defensive cooldowns are in use however it does take a couple of seconds to get those going, and you usually lose them when you're moving from pack to pack, especially on map transitions. I would not change this for anything. - Wrathful - This choice is, again, linked to your gear and preference. As of now in 2.6.1, I am running life per hit on my weapon (which is new compared to 2.6.0). I like being tanky. Wrathful gives a lot of health regen throughout the rift, enough to skyrocket your survivability by a lot. If you do not feel like you're dying (maybe for 90-100 speeds), Holy cause is a better choice. I tried both, and felt too squishy without Wrathful. I do not have a good Strongarm bracer with Life per hit either so it's not like I lose a ton of damage. 10% from holy cause is roughly 7% actual damage. Unlike before, where it was like 2%. 2/ Gear If you just want optimal gear choices for (very) high paragon level, just check this d3planner link : This link also includes a couple variation of the build for people who can't find a good flail. Those are not optimal though, so keep that in mind. If for some reason you do not want to use d3planner, here's a rundown of the stats and some insights. Keep in mind, as I said, that it's a very strict build stat wise so if you are having trouble with damage or survivability, make sure that you have all the stats advised. Another important thing to not is that area damage is a stat you should focus on only after you have everything else. It increases your damage by a lot, but only in very specific situations that you probably won't encounter very often until you're pushing high grifts with good gear (because said situations are quite hard to survive if you are low paragon with not so great gear). For that reason, I will here put in brackets what's the next best easy stat to get instead of area damage. - Head : Roland - Str / CHC / %SA / Socket (it's not possible to use vitality here any more due to the change that was made to Golden flense, 15% sweep amounts for at least 10% damage now, which is huge) - Shoulders : Roland - Str / RCR / CDR / %AD [All rez] LPG (you can potentially live without cdr but try not to) - Gloves : Roland - Str / CHC / CHD / %AD [vitality or cdr] (vitality for low paragon is a great help, cdr will help you with champion's uptime which is both more damage and survivability) - Chestpiece : Roland - STR / Vit / Elite dmg reduction (you can go for %life instead of elite damage) // better with secondary rez and no All rez here - Belt : Witching hour - str / vit / %AS / %CHD - You need at least 6% atk speed. 5% is too low, it won't work. - Pants : Roland - str / vit / all rez (keep in mind, if you have a secondary rez, you can't have all rez) - Boots : Roland - str / vit / all rez / %SA / LPG - Bracers :Strongarms - %elem / CHC / str / Life per hit or vitality (if you have LpH on your flail and play with wrathful, you really don't need the LpH. If you don't have LpH on your weapon, go for LpH here. If you have LpH on your weapon and here, you should try going without wrathful - the latter is probably the best damage wise but might be a bit sketchy toughness wise) - Ring 1 - CoE : CHC / CHD / %AD [Str / CDR] / LPG - Ring 2 - Compass rose : Str / CHC / CHD / %AD [CDR / RCR] / LPG - Amulet : Traveler's pledge - %elem / CHC / CHD - Weapon : Golden flense - %AS / %dmg / Life per Hit / Strength / %AD (%dmg is a true 10% damage multiplier. Life per hit is a ton of survivability. Strength is good at low paragon, better than 10% dmg until you have at least 15000 strength without finary. Area damage is great as well, since AD is the last choice here I won't put other recommandations. I'd say, if you have %AD here it's because you can't get a better flail either way) - Shield : Denial - Str / Vit / CHC / RCR or CDR (see the mechanics information below) For all those items, always try to get secondary rez when you can. That is, on helm, gloves, chestpiece, belt, rings, amulet, bracers. I mention LPG on some items, LPG means Life per globe. If you're using wrathful, try to get at least a couple items with it so that you have more life regen. With 100k LPG, you double the healing provided by the passive, which is huge. Also, gold & globe pickup radius is amazing if you can get it. Optimally : boots, pants, helm, belt (if WH) and shoulders. Cubed items : - Furnace - Aquila cuirass - ORotZ Gems : - Bane of the trapped - Bane of the stricken - Gogok of swiftness Follower : - Enchantress with skill +3% ATK Speed is required. Fire can make without it but will need to have perma uptime on law to get the last breakpoint so I would advise against it. - I would advise against using Ess of johan on your enchantress. It can mess up your pulls, and you really don't want that. Pets are too dumb to be trusted. I've heard from sVr90 that she moves only after attacking, so give her the slowest attacking weapon you have (a lvl50 2-H mace will do the trick) so that she attacks the slowest possible and thus moves as little as possible. Legendary potion : - Try to get a potion that gives +30% resource when used below 50% HP. 3/ Mechanics explained Why is fire so great : The fire DoT from sweep can stack (ie : you can have several different ones ticking at the same time) and, as all DoTs, scale on (basically) elemental (elite) sheet DPS (which includes atk speed). Since you have very high atk speed, you have a lot of DoTs ticking and they tick for a lot of damage. Basically, at 4.8 attack speed, you can consider the 120% Weapon Damage (WD) DoT to be a 120*4.8 = ~580 WD DoT, so fire does 480+580 = ~1060% WD per swing, which is more than double what othe runes does (so expect ~4-5 grs difference). Thanks to WorkWorkWork and the chinese community to bring this fact to the US forums so that we can understand why fire is better ! One important thing about fire (compared to lightning) is that it works, throughout the rift, without the need to use Laws of Valor to get its breakpoint. What it means is pretty much that you get much more zodiac procs on actually important skills, especially akkarat's champion. This is the reason you can keep it almost permanently up despite having overall low cdr. Strongarms is, now, a necessary item as it gives 30% (additive) damage which, as it is implied, stacks with the 20% debuff from Heavenly Strength. It's pretty much a true 20% damage multiplier, you just can't ditch something that great. Condemn - Vacuum applies the necessary knockback even if the mob isn't moved, as long as it could have been moved but wasn't due to crowd control resistance. Resource cost reduction, Cooldown reduction and Sweep attack : Laws of valor is a great tool for reducing the wrath cost of sweep attack but by itself, it's not enough to sustain wrath against a pure single target boss like Cold Snap for example. Because it's annoying to get to a boss and not be able to kill it because you run out of wrath, I tried to tech the build with some RCR so that it is possible to sustain against even single target bosses. It's easy to get enough rcr for that, however, it's is hard to do it while keeping enough CDR to keep perma akkarat's champion during the rift. You have the possibility to get RCR on shoulders together with CDR so that's the first thing you should aim for. After that, you have exactly 2 spots left where you get either RCR or CDR without losing actual damage. Those spots are : socketed gem in the helm, and last stat slot on the shield. Whatever you choose to run on one item, you need the other on the other item. So if you have CDR on your shield, you need RCR on your helm, and vice versa. With topaz in the helm, you will have positive wrath gain even against a single target. However, during the rift, you will struggle keeping the champion up 100% of the time. On the other end, with only 8% RCR on the shield, you will still have a slight wrath loss against single target bosses. It's well manageable, especially with the resource recovery potion but keep that in mind. You will have an easier time with akkarat's champion through the rift. Keep in mind that you can always get a boss with adds but you can't get a rift with perma champion, that's the reason I choose to go for CDR in helm and RCR on shield. Of course, if you have a ring with cdr or rcr instead of area damage, this doesn't really matter anymore. 4/ Gameplay Roland is a truck. It is slow but you just get everything in your path and kill it. The way I play it is : 1 - Go into a rift. 2 - If rift is bad, exit game and start from step 1 3 - Find the first pack of trash. You should aim for at least 6% of trash + an elite. 4 - Gather density and scout during the 8 seconds of your CoE following your main damage (so if you're playing fire, that's holy and lightning). 5 - Stop and start attacking during physical (for fire, holy for lightning). Reason is you want the full bonus of endess walk for your main element CoE 6 - If an oculus area spawns, try to go into it. Do that only if you're still hitting the elite. Use Condemn to bring mobs with you to the Oculus area if you do. 7 - Once the pack starts thinning out, start looking for a new one. If you have one elite, use your horse to drag it. If you have several elites, lead them just by baiting. 8 - Always stop to do your fire CoE on the pack even while moving from a spot to another. You should almost always have enough density to get your 5 denial stacks 9 - Find a new spot with trash, go back to step 4 10 - Always be on the lookout for pylons. Pylons come usually every 20 to 30% density. Conduit is the most welcome pylon. Do use power pylons unless you're sure to have the boss soon. Channelling is almost useless, take it if you feel like you need the CDR to survive. Leave it for the boss just in case otherwise. Shield is usually bad for the simple reason that you can't proc your iron skin flash while it's active, which means you can't go into occulus areas. 11 - Boss ! Now you need to start using the law to get the RCR. You should use your potion to get resource as much as possible. I never ran into a boss that could kill me when playing fire, because with diamonds you can tank a lot. If you have a pylon, always wait before taking it UNLESS it is a channeling and you fight with a boss that spawns adds after a certain health threshold. Saxtris comes to mind, so does Voracity and Binder for example. Power is extremely strong on bosses like Saxtris, you can take it at 75-70% and just kill her in a matter of seconds due to very high stricken counts. If you have any question feel free to ask here. Grift 115 clear : My profile : [tl;dr d3planner link] Kikaha232 Sep 19
Sep 16 Help with invoker build I know I'm missing ancients with augments with higher thorns rolls on secondary but I'm having a hard time at GR75 with this current setup. I'm at 53% CDR, 2.4 IAS, and 107% AD on sheet. It's not necessarily damage i'm having an issue with as much as survivability. Is diamonds in sockets better to do until I get more ancients? I'm basically trying to get to a point where I can run 90's for xp and gems. I'm used to playing necro RGK but kinda tired of doing that because it's so group dependent. are any of my skills an passives wrong? just looking for advice from people who can run GR85+ efficient. thanks in advanceFade2Black6 Sep 16
Sep 16 I am so disappointed on the Invoker set I am new to the Crusader. I choose to level up this alt to become my main because I thought a Thorn set is the perfect class fantasy as a tank. When I had 4 pieces of the set it was incredible. The AOE was marvelous and I was having a blast inside the perfect class fantasy I wanted with this set. But as soon I got 6 pieces.... 95 - 98%% of the damage went to my auto-attack... ?! Now the class fantasy is dead, I became a 1 button spam fest. Can Blizzard fix the Invoker set? Is there a way where you can tone down the single target damage and balance to the AOE? Edit: I am so disappointed that I will change to another crusader set. This set is unbearable, unfun, and my hand is hurting from so much auto-attack spamming. It is a shame.Nostari12 Sep 16
Sep 15 Blessed Shield+Area Dmg interaction question Fellow Crusaders, Recently I've watched a video by Quin69 about area damage and started to think about getting some of this affix into my build, witch is Captain America (Akhan set + Gyrfalcon Foote + Jakenboard for those unfamiliar). My questions, if someone knows about the subject are: 1 - Does the "smaller shields", spawned by the Shattering Throw rune, procs area damage or just the main shield? 2 - Does the explosion created by the Combust rune procs area damage or just the main shield? So far I totally ignored area damage on my build, and although I'm clearing GR98 solo right now (non-season), I started to feel like I'm reaching the higher that I can with my current setup. Thanks in advance for your help. The mentioned video: Sep 15
Sep 14 Frydehr's Wrath drop rate? I must have spent all of about 9k on Kadala and Frydehr's Wrath still had yet to show. I must have gotten every other shield but FW. What is up with this thing? Is there another place to farm it with better results?KingKoopaTho12 Sep 14
Sep 14 Speed Pets build above GR50 ? Hi Crusaders mates ! Just been "fooling" with the class, to conclude this season. ; ) And I was wondering if there was any pets build able to do above T11or GR 50 at a good speed (less than 4 min) ? I have been using something which is very close to this ( and been able to do an around average 3min 15s clear time at GR50. I tested different combos (including baleful remnant and eternal union) but it seems that's the best I could achieve. However, above GR50, it's really becoming slow (close to 5 min). So, besides rolling some phalanx dmg on the helm and boots, any ideas, please ? Thank you ! : )Gelador10 Sep 14
Sep 7 Frydehr's wrath drop restriction? Hey guys, quick question about frydehr's wrath, does this shield only drop from certain places or tiers of gr or something? People tell me its just a regular unrestricted drop but I've spent well over 30000 rubies and hundreds of dbs rolling shields, and been run through countless tier 70 grs and still haven't seen this shield drop. It's been nearly 3 full days of nonstop farming rubies and db's and GRs and still nothing, and the impale build I've been using to farm runs tier 70s in about 3 minutes. As you know the condemn build doesn't function without this shield. I've seen countless legendary shields of other varieties. I feel I've passed the point of mathematical odds and there has to be something else going on. I was thinking about submitting a bug report TBH but I wanted to ask people if anyone else knows anything first.Plaje14 Sep 7
Aug 31 Can someone link a Captain America build? I want to see how these are geared. Leaderboards aren't helpful for obvious reasons, but I miss the old Jekangbord/Gryphalcon's Foote build where you'd wipe out a whole room with a few shields.Cartman25466 Aug 31