[2.1] Complete M6 Sentry Data

Demon Hunter
1 2 3 5 Next
All credit goes to gfocus on a Chinese community forum. I only translated the data to English.

DISCLAIMER: USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY LOSS OF DPS OR RAGE INDUCED DUE TO WRONG INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA OR INACCURATE DATA.

Original thread:
http://bbs.d.163.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=172915447

This is an exhaustive list of all spender setups on the 2.1 PTR, up to a maximum of 3 spenders slotted.
It displays the number of spender and the number of regular bolts fired in a 30-second cycle for each setup. I find the table extremely useful to min/max my output.

UPDATE: It looks like there are some inaccurate data regarding BP6 & 7 (frame 18 & 12), according to Nyan. Test it yourself if you care enough. Otherwise, it should still roughly give you an idea without being too far off.

1 spender:
http://imgur.com/T1KaK3J

2 spenders:
http://imgur.com/KgmGnjU

3 spenders:
http://imgur.com/p1nAOPG

Abbreviations:
BP = Breakpoint
CA = Cluster Arrow
MS = Multishot
Imp = Impale
Chak = Chakram
EA = Elemental Arrow
Bolts = Sentry auto attack. Note that EA or Chakram will completely replace bolts should you use them.

BP table for reference:
BP.......APS (rounded to 3 dp)
1.........1.102
2.........1.256
3.........1.459
4.........1.742
5.........2.160
6.........2.842
7.........4.154

If you don't know the basic mechanics of sentry attack speed breakpoints,
please refer to Jaybird's "The Tao of Sentries" thread:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12945884471
wow nice data! bookmarked!

With this, can somebody translate them into damage% (total - skill wise) so we can theorycraft which spender combination and BP is the best.
Cool~ Please someone slap me for not updating my thread cause im lazy....
there's a typo on the 3rd image, saying 21 cluster arrows were fired in a cycle. Probably meant to say 12 cluster arrows.

Anyways great resource
Can someone explain BP (break-point)?
06/30/2014 07:42 PMPosted by Rukan
there's a typo on the 3rd image, saying 21 cluster arrows were fired in a cycle. Probably meant to say 12 cluster arrows.

Anyways great resource


Thanks for pointing that out. It was a typo on my part. Fixed!
06/30/2014 07:45 PMPosted by ChillTown
Can someone explain BP (break-point)?


It refers to the minimum attack per second required on your character.
Please read the thread "The Tao of Sentries" by Jaybird for detailed explanation:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12945884471
06/30/2014 07:52 PMPosted by Cutha
06/30/2014 07:45 PMPosted by ChillTown
Can someone explain BP (break-point)?


It refers to the minimum attack per second required on your character.
Please read the thread "The Tao of Sentries" by Jaybird for detailed explanation:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12945884471


Thanks!
Wow, valuable information, although it is little bit harder for me ^^.
Thanks for the information. Yes, it now make sense to remove bolt for skill like EA BL where it is more like a channeling skills.
on the 3 spenders, how come there are to columns with CA + Imp + CHA combo with different numbers? am i reading this wrong?
06/30/2014 09:53 PMPosted by edhne
on the 3 spenders, how come there are to columns with CA + Imp + CHA combo with different numbers? am i reading this wrong?


Sorry - that was my typo again. Just fixed it! It should be MS+Imp+Chakram.
Thank you!
this is big!
that 3 spender vs 2 spender is settled in 2.1 then :D
Can't wait to use impale for my 3rd spender

Edited : forgot to say thank you ;D
Thank you for the data!

It seems the internal cooldowns haven't changed, only the bugs fixed.

I just wished they would have chosen a better duration as 30 sec duration cuts off in middle of a rotation often so it gives slightly incorrect data. For example using CA+MS at 1.46 breakpoint gives 13 Cluster Arrows in 30 secs according to the images, but what it fails to inform is that the next 30 secs would only yield 12 Cluster Arrows.
07/01/2014 03:18 AMPosted by Tenebrion
It seems the internal cooldowns haven't changed, only the bugs fixed.


Indeed, I confirmed this in my thread from my own testing.

Don't forget at the 1.46 BP (2h crossbow) that Impale and MS alone have no basic attack and allow MfD. They rotate 1:1 MS-IMP-MS-IMP.

It's very effective.
Oh - and thanks for doing the translation and post Cutha! This is the most comprehensive data I've seen thus far and seems accurate from my own testing.

The interesting thing to me is how CA volume is absolutely throttled compared to ANY other skill choice.

In all cases, at any breakpoint, whether using one or 3 spenders - you never get more than one extra CA from your sentries!


13-14 CA shots are the ONLY options regardless of BPs or skills used, hence why Impale and MS are often better options for total damage output. They have FAR smaller internal cooldowns and pretty decent damage with the Burn runed Impale and MS-Arsenal and Ballistics passive.

EDIT just tested BP4 in game (1.75 BP) and the 30 x MS-Impales and 30 x MS-Arsenals seems VERY impressive. You gain the benefit from a 2h crossbow but also having no basic attacks. It also frees up a slot for MfD, adding a further 20% + damage too.

More testing to follow...
well using your thread i did some math- it seems the best combination on more then 3 targets would be CA MS Impale using the 2.16 BP with TnT. anyone else got something similar ? it seems that lightning isn't as badly gimped as previusly thought too, it was roughly 5% dmg behind most fire variants (expect for the one stated above, which had 20% more dps then any other variant).
07/01/2014 04:02 AMPosted by Nyg8
well using your thread i did some math- it seems the best combination on more then 3 targets would be CA MS Impale using the 2.16 BP with TnT. anyone else got something similar ? it seems that lightning isn't as badly gimped as previusly thought too, it was roughly 5% dmg behind most fire variants (expect for the one stated above, which had 20% more dps then any other variant).


I'm gonna do some PTR runs later today with 4 spenders (CA/IMP/MS/EA) with Krinder at 2.85 BP. Gonna use Fire and EA FA for CC. Who needs room for anything else than your companions or SS :)

Join the Conversation

Return to Forum